Starting out on guitar (again)

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:14 am

Ok, I am starting to learn the guitar for a second time. So I'm looking for a cheap (really cheap £50-100) electric guitar. I have an acoustic one but I don't really like playing it and am considering selling it. Any recommendations for that price range and tips for playing? I really want to learn but I just do not like my acoustic guitar. Btw going for cheapness in case it ends up being a waste of money
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Sunnii Bebiieh
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:20 am

I've been kinda out of the loop when it comes to recommending any type of lower cost electric, (I play acoustic) but try and find a used one that feels solid to you and plays in tune up and down the neck.
Don't be in a hurry and go to a place where there are several to choose from.
Play a bunch of them, and don't be pulled in by the pretty one (unless it's solid and plays very well).
Eventually, there will be one that will whisper "I'm the one".

Play a progression of G-C-D....over and over again until you hands and fingers hurt...then keep playing.
Learn as many basic chords as you can and how they fit together with other chords in different types of progresssions.
Try to focus on the rhythm of your plucking and strumming hand a little bit more than your fingering hand.
Both are important, but rhythym is (almost) everything. And most of your tone gets developed in your rhythm hand in the way you attack and mute the strings.
Learn songs that you like and practice them relentlessly. Expand your abilities, and try new things no matter how crappy it sounds at first. Keep at it.

Good luck, and have fun, and work through your frustrations.
And HAVE FUN! That's the most important thing.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:55 am

Find a cheap guitar with a neck you really like, something that feels great in your hand. Then buy new pickups and strings. It requires some guitar repair knowhow but it's a lot cheaper than buying a good guitar.

Also, what genres are you interested in?

I have some great exercises for you if you have Guitar Pro, a lot of legato exercises and picking exercises. It really helped me out a lot.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:40 am

Btw going for cheapness in case it ends up being a waste of money

Good call. I always get a laugh out of beginners that buy pro gear and quit after a month. :D

Instead of suggesting to learn chords and scales I would suggest starting right off with attempting to write your own music. You'll learn the techniques and such as they become necessary. I may be completely wrong about this, but in my opinion it's the way to go.

..Although it is fun to play your favourite songs :shrug: and if that's your main goal then disregard my advice entirely.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:40 am

Good call. I always get a laugh out of beginners that buy pro gear and quit after a month. :biggrin:

Instead of suggesting to learn chords and scales I would suggest starting right off with attempting to write your own music. You'll learn the techniques and such as they become necessary. I may be completely wrong about this, but in my opinion it's the way to go.

..Although it is fun to play your favourite songs :shrug: and if that's your main goal then disregard my advice entirely.



Nothing wrong with both.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:51 pm

Nothing wrong with both.

You just blew my mind. :bonk:

haha I didn't put much thought into that post
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:41 am

Instead of suggesting to learn chords and scales I would suggest starting right off with attempting to write your own music. You'll learn the techniques and such as they become necessary. I may be completely wrong about this, but in my opinion it's the way to go.
I couldn't disagree more. Learning proper technique and music theory is absolutely essential before you start writing your own music. Or at least if you want to write good music.

A good picking technique for example can make things so much easier for you. How are you going to play a metal song for example if you don't know alternative picking?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:14 pm

I couldn't disagree more. Learning proper technique and music theory is absolutely essential before you start writing your own music. Or at least if you want to write good music.

A good picking technique for example can make things so much easier for you. How are you going to play a metal song for example if you don't know alternative picking?

Like I said I could be wrong. At one point I just stopped learning theory and other peoples' music entirely though.. and I like to think my music is pretty good still :hehe:

My thought process was just that you shouldn't think "what chord or note would sound good after this based on what I've learned" and just be guided by feeling alone. But you're right having the techniques and knowledge can't possibly be a bad thing. Disregard my posts in this thread :facepalm:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:43 am

zillions of youtube vids for chords, direct note playing, reading music and whatever.. my buddy's kid learned the keyboard (and in piano, not PC) from youtube vids and is moving on to guitar.

I don't have any specific url's, but it shouldn't be hard to find.. go to youtube and search under learning the guitar :smile:
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:59 pm

I'd say the best advice is to learn songs that you want to learn really. If you want to play Metal, find some generic, easy to play metal that you like. While they aren't my favorite, there are some easy Metallica riffs that are good to learn for a beginner. There's also the classic easy songs like "Smoke on the Water" or "Eye of the Tiger" if you're into that.

Bottom line is, the only way you'll really want to keep playing is if you're enjoying it. I wouldn't recommend going straight for writing music, it'll probably just end in frustration. Get your basics down first and have fun with it. It should just come naturally after that.

As far as good beginner gear goes, it's probably best to go to a guitar store nearby and dink around with whatever they have. If you have a friend that can play bring him/her. I find that Epiphones are good enough for a beginner, but you could also go for a Dean Vendetta or a Squire or something.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/epiphone-sg-special-electric-guitar/517239000035000?src=http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1332237-starting-out-on-guitar-again/3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/dean-vendetta-xm-electric-guitar/512150000001000?src=http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1332237-starting-out-on-guitar-again/3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/squier-affinity-series-telecaster-special-electric-guitar/515115000839000?src=http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1332237-starting-out-on-guitar-again/3WWRWXGB&ZYXSEM=0

Amps are a little harder to recommend. What style are you going for?
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Allison Sizemore
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:14 am

You'll end up sounding better on the acoustic than the electric most likely, but get a squire I guess, they are cheap strat wannabes.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:30 am

Just some advice, form calluses on your finger tips as soon as possible. Without them, you can not play guitar for more than 30 minutes before it feels like your fingers are on fire, atleast that's how it is on acoustic. I used rubbing alcohol on my fingers after playing to dry them out until my calluses formed, now I don't feel a thing.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:52 pm

Thanks for your advice everyone. The kind of music I am goin for is rock, like an early Beatles kind of things. Would I be better off with getting a beginners package (includes amp and stuff) or just buying them seperately?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:44 am

If you're just starting, you might be better off going for a package deal. They cost about £90-100. If you take to it, then start looking changing up the equipment, be warned, guitars are addictive...I always want more of them myself D:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:34 am

After having a look I think I've narrowed my selection to these:

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/epiphone-les-paul-special-ii-gt-worn-black

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/guitars/electric-guitars/redwood-rs1-white

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/guitars/electric-guitars/farida-fe3-maple-neck-black

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/guitars/electric-guitars/farida-ftc8-candy-apple-red

Which of those do you think would be best for playing Beatles music? (Stuff like She Loves You and Can't Buy Me Love etc.)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:36 am

Since it says you're from Liverpool, try heading over to Dawsons and seeing which they have there and give them a try, pick the one that feels most comfortable to you. I'm not a massive Beatles fan, but I think George used a Telecaster at various points, so tonally, you might lean towards that, as well as part of the image. There is of course going to be a massive difference between a Farida telecaster and a Fender one, but it is all personal preference. I'd say don't buy guitars off of who else plays them, everybody is different, and every guitar is too, go off the feel.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:26 am

Since it says you're from Liverpool, try heading over to Dawsons and seeing which they have there and give them a try, pick the one that feels most comfortable to you. I'm not a massive Beatles fan, but I think George used a Telecaster at various points, so tonally, you might lean towards that, as well as part of the image. There is of course going to be a massive difference between a Farida telecaster and a Fender one, but it is all personal preference. I'd say don't buy guitars off of who else plays them, everybody is different, and every guitar is too, go off the feel.

Will do. Really I just want to play Beatles songs, I hear they are easy to play compared to other bands. Is that Farida one a Telecaster? (I know it won't sound nearly as good as the real deal but I can't afford a proper one (over 1k :o ), plus I don't want to invest loads of money in case it is a waste). Also, do I need an amplifier to play an electric guitar? Can I use my normal PC headphones (doubting this)?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:42 pm

You'll need an amp I'm afraid, though the benefit of going in store is you might be able to work in a decent deal, then again, Dawson's are a large company so I'm not 100% on that. The red Farida is the telecaster (the shape of the body, sorry, forgot one of the others was a Farida too), the two that are the same shape are Stratocasters/Strats and the Epiphone is a Les Paul style.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:16 am

You'll need an amp I'm afraid, though the benefit of going in store is you might be able to work in a decent deal, then again, Dawson's are a large company so I'm not 100% on that. The red Farida is the telecaster (the shape of the body, sorry, forgot one of the others was a Farida too), the two that are the same shape are Stratocasters/Strats and the Epiphone is a Les Paul style.

Unfortunate, kind of wanted to save a bit of cash. I'll have about £140 to spend by the end of the month so I will see what is on offer then, plus I might be able to afford an amp too. Thank you for your advice Lord!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:26 am

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/epiphone-les-paul-special-ii-player-pack-chrome-hardware-ebony

That kind of stuff is probably your best bet, most shops will have some version of a starter kit, and Epiphone are a well respected name (part of Gibson).
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:29 pm

After having a look I think I've narrowed my selection to these:
Which of those do you think would be best for playing Beatles music? (Stuff like She Loves You and Can't Buy Me Love etc.)
Probably the Epiphone Les Paul. The Beatles used a lot of Rickenbackers, Gretsch, etc. Harrison used a Tele sometimes and Fender Esquire and Epiphone Casino on a lot of the solos.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:22 am

I'll have a try of it in store, looks to be a good guitar an I like the looks of it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:54 am

One thing though, a Les Paul is going to sound like a Les Paul, while a strat, though harder to make it do what you want, can sound like both. You get more out of the start, but in turn its more of a work out to get your tone, or even to play it. SGs, Les Pauls, etc. Most double humbuckers even, are easy to play, easy to get a tone, and can be referred to as button pushers, since playing is a lot easier than on a Fender type. thinner neck, arguably better pick ups, not a bolt on neck etc. All play into the nuances of each type.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:18 am

One thing though, a Les Paul is going to sound like a Les Paul, while a strat, though harder to make it do what you want, can sound like both. You get more out of the start, but in turn its more of a work out to get your tone, or even to play it. SGs, Les Pauls, etc. Most double humbuckers even, are easy to play, easy to get a tone, and can be referred to as button pushers, since playing is a lot easier than on a Fender type. thinner neck, arguably better pick ups, not a bolt on neck etc. All play into the nuances of each type.

Thanks for that advice but it is just a starter guitar, Im on a tight budget :P I'll take this into the consideration if I get another one though :)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:14 am

So I'm looking for a cheap (really cheap £50-100) electric guitar. I have an acoustic one but I don't really like playing it .........I really want to learn but I just do not like my acoustic guitar. Btw going for cheapness in case it ends up being a waste of money

You may have considered this, but you can't really hear an electric guitar unless you have an amp, so that is going to add to your total outlay.
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