The American Revolution - European Perspective

Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:20 am

So I've been playing Assassin's Creed III which takes place during the American Revolution. The game raises some interesting perspectives for me, some I have never thought of. Like how did the British feel about the war? What was their perspective? How did other European countries feel about it? How do your schools teach it? As an American I have never really put any thought into such things but now I find my self frustratingly curious about it.

If you could, please put what your country is and what your perspective of the war is.

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ZANEY82
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:12 pm

I've never learnt about it in school, nor know anyone who did. I'd guess that here (UK) it's not on the curriculum, but I may be mistaken...

I can't really answer your other questions cause, honestly, I don't know much about it. It's never really interested me, nor have I ever heard it talked about but once in a politics class, or on American TV.
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Jeff Tingler
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:33 am

Washington would be viewed as a terrorist. plain and simple

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Lexy Dick
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:42 am

From Britain's point of view I assume the revolution would be viewed as a colony/state trying to assert itself as an independent country, similar to how the USA viewed the South in the American civil war.

I don't think so. A terrorist is someone who kills civilians to incite terror and draw attention to their cause if I'm not mistaken. Washington was a revolutionary, but not a terrorist. Guy Fawkes on the other hand was a terrorist.

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Lindsay Dunn
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:33 am

he's terrorising Britain, murdering soldiers, etc. If we were British today they'd probably tell us he killed children who's parents fought for the Queen

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Chris BEvan
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:14 am

I know enough about it to assure you that we don't see Washington as a terrorist…
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Jason Rice
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:46 pm

You guys had so many colonies on other continents back in the day that it's probably hard to keep them all straight by now. :tongue: :wink: We were the ones that were fond of making small changes to existing religions and then giving them new names, and I think we came up with basketball, if that helps. We're also the home of such mega-celebrities as "Snooki."

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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 am

My country is USA.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that we had economic disagreements and stopped acknowledging the divine right of kings.

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Tiffany Carter
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:42 pm

Yeah I'm gonna go with the Revolution not being taught very extensively in many schools of other countries past the point of people just knowing it happened at one point and that's why the US is not part of Great Britain (though sometimes I wonder what would've happened culturally and linguistically had we stayed a part of Great Britain for a bit longer).

Most of us in the US just grew up learning European history to the point of it affecting the US, and world history to the point of affecting the US; you usually don't learn about other countries' wars for their own sake in depth in school until post-secondary or until taking a niche class for it. I didn't learn most of the ins and outs of the French Revolution until my recent World History class, for example.

But there are still those who may have learned more or studied more in their spare time to get an opinion of it.

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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:17 am

I expect Britain has more of a grudge against all those European powers who were instrumental in supporting the revolutionaries, such as the Kingdom of the Netherlands and Spain(?). I mean, it's only natural for the plebs to rebel now and then, especially when they are so far away, but those bastards messed with stuff that wasn't any of their business (well, aside from being profitable for them).

Ironically, I believe just about all Americans of the time would be classified as terrorists by the USA military's current working definition: any male over a certain age who has a weapon and is in the area of the conflict (if I recall correctly).

Wiki reckons that was a Canadian :P.

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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:54 am

I find that odd considering that one of the sides was the Great Britain.

The Department of Defense's definition of terrorism is far from that, and they are in charge of the armed forces. "The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."

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Ann Church
 
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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:57 am

Canadian American in the employ of an American school. It's simple rounding. :tongue: Besides, unless you're an actual Native American you're just some person from somewhere else that happened to end up here. I'm mostly Brit and German by lineage.

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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:10 pm

Really? I could've sworn I was born here in America. By definition that makes me an American, not someone who came from somewhere else...however my ancestors came from somewhere else, as did (IIRC) the ancestors of the Native Americans.

As for the actual question at hand, I never really thought of how the Europeans viewed, or even taught about the American Revolution. I guess it makes sense that it would be taught only up to the point of that it happened, and possibly who the major players were. I liken it to how many people where I live know the full history of the French Revolution. I remember being taught about it in school, but never spent any length of time studying it.

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Post » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:12 pm

That isn't terrorism, it's war. Stalin wasn't viewed as a terrorist by Germany. It's semantics but still.

By that reasoning we're all just globe trotting Africans.

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