The growing threat of antibiotic resistance.

Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:23 am

Nano-Machines..

Yeah, this'll be the answer eventually.

We are going to have a problem with MDR bacteria soon, especially in first world countries. The best bet until we invent nano-machines will eventually be to live in sparsely populated third world countries. Mongolia, here I come!

This is what happens when people put their unyielding faith in western medicine.

... irony?
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kyle pinchen
 
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:16 pm

Same, I only get sick about once a year, and even then its easy 3 day cold or some such.

Yeah that's just a viral infection, that usually goes away after three days but when I get them they go away in a day, probably because I always drink lemonade and Advil when I'm sick.
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Post » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:55 pm

Resistance to antibiotic? Oh noo our bodies are treating them the same as other substances we put in our body, ohh whatever will we do!?

Ohh that's right we actually let our bodies build its own resistance to the illnesses instead of popping pills for silly headaches.
I've had people on FB whine endlessly about how their paracetamol won't banish their headache - that's what happens when you 'po' them for every single one.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:18 am

That's why if I get sick... I let it run its course... no medicine unless I absolutely need it. More than likely the reason why I don't get sick as often and when I do... it lasts at most 3 days

Same here, and the only sicknesses i've gotten in the last 10 years has been flue. And for that i take only ibuprofen (painkiller), to lower fever before going to bed. I've gotten the impression that people think antiobiotics are a miracle cure. But they kill only bacteria, not virii, And majority of bacteria are beneficial if i remember my school days correctly :hehe:
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:15 am

It's been a threat for over 20 years, really. Takes many a long time to listen, and many never will.

But honestly, even if you reduced the abuse, it would still happen eventually, especially with the population explosion compared to when antibiotics etc. were first discovered/put into wide use. The key is having to figure out how to be able to shift our medicine along with it. We can't be complacent and think that because we've almost wiped out something, that it'll never be a problem again. Nature has a way of adapting....so we must constantly adapt with it.

That said...yeah, it scares me a bit, and I've always hated taking ANY medicine unless I'm on death's door. I used to spit up the child aspirin my mother would try to get me to take when I had a fever as a kid. Would drop it/hide it behind the mattress. :laugh:
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:53 am

Some people's immune systems are also too strong for antibiotics to work.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Eat more dirt.
My cousin just had his first kid, great couple, nice kid. They carry antiseptic wipes that you have to use if you want to hold him. We as a species have spent thousands of years developing immunities to various bugs out there. Many that used to kill us now just make us sick. I get a cold about every three years, have never had the flu. Germs fear me......
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:28 am

They carry antiseptic wipes that you have to use if you want to hold him.
That kids not going to have a tough immune system if they keep that wipe stuff up.
I found it funny that kids actually build their immune system up through licking/svcking on different things (they do this to identify it as well iirc).
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:58 am

Eat more dirt.
My cousin just had his first kid, great couple, nice kid. They carry antiseptic wipes that you have to use if you want to hold him. We as a species have spent thousands of years developing immunities to various bugs out there. Many that used to kill us now just make us sick. I get a cold about every three years, have never had the flu. Germs fear me......
thats going to be harmful for that kids future.... people who are kept in sterile environments during development end up suffering from minor illnesses far worse than the average person
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:16 am

thats going to be harmful for that kids future.... people who are kept in sterile environments during development end up suffering from minor illnesses far worse than the average person
Yep, you can't artificially replace immunity. I think parents need to accept that their kids are going to get a cold every now and then.

My dad always said sterilisation is for your first child where you put the teat of their bottle in the microwave for ten minutes to kill the germs, and for your second where you wipe the teat on your shirt and put it back on the bottle.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:14 am

Why don't people take two different antibiotics for the same illness? The tiny minority of germs resistant to the first antibiotic will be likely wiped out by the second. Obviously if this worked people would do it, I'm just curious as to why it doesn't work.
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Post » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:33 pm

Why use two different ones if the first one that is being resisted is useless?
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:13 am

Why don't people take two different antibiotics for the same illness? The tiny minority of germs resistant to the first antibiotic will be likely wiped out by the second. Obviously if this worked people would do it, I'm just curious as to why it doesn't work.
if i recall correctly, most antibiotics would work against each other, which would just cause the bacteria to be more resistant to both, and even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't stop the overall problem of people taking antibiotics wrong
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:17 am

if i recall correctly, most antibiotics would work against each other, which would just cause the bacteria to be more resistant to both, and even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't stop the overall problem of people taking antibiotics wrong
I see, I suppose thats why people are prescribed a course of antibiotics rather than a sort of cocktail of antibiotics, so that the antibiotics work one after another, rather than all at the same time. Thanks.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:25 am

I never get ill but on the rare chance that i do (I get the flu every now and again) it is really severe, no medicine or antibiotics ever help me, it's odd since i used to get ill all the time
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:39 am

I usually get ill every 3 years, unexplained rashes every 1 1/2 years...

I think the vitamin drink I took was a placebo with earwig honey and bonemeal.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 am

Growing up in the home of an old Jewish woman, when you got sick, there was no "antibiotics" it was just natural stuff.

Chicken broth, tea with lemon ( :sick: ) and honey, homemade cough syrup (lemon juice and honey) , a salt water gargle, stuff like that. It worked pretty good too.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:10 am

tea with lemon ( :sick: )

What is wrong with you.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:42 pm



What is wrong with you.
I never liked lemon. The honey was good.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:38 am

Over 75% of the antibiotics used in the US aren't used by humans, but by livestock. People being overprescribed antibiotics is a problem, sure, but the bigger problem is how much they are pumping into the meat supply.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:58 am

Over 75% of the antibiotics used in the US aren't used by humans, but by livestock. People being overprescribed antibiotics is a problem, sure, but the bigger problem is how much they are pumping into the meat supply.

A lot of the meat in my local supermarket (somewhat upscale) is labelled "antibiotic free". You usually an make better choices whiles shopping. The problem is when eating out or in fast food places. Those are out of your control and there's the possibility of resistant bacteria in meat that isn't properly handled/cooked. Its a shame that the power of the meat lobby can override public health concerns. Most consumers would probably pay a few percent more for meat that's raised properly (in less crowded and cleaner conditions that don't require antibiotics to keep the livestock from being sick).
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:07 am

One of the things I not-too-proudly studied was pathenogenic substances, bacterial resistances, and potential use as bio-warfare agents.

Every human being out there acts like your typical biological reactor (bio-reactor) where we incubate and cultivate numerous diseases within our bodies. Things get extremely dark when you talk about people that purposefully try to mass produced strains of antibiotic resistant substances, and so-called "super viruses."

Only thing that svcks even worse is how Nursing Homes and Day Care centers are prime culprits in the easy breeding of these strains, due to weakened immune systems of the elderly or developing immune systems of the young. It is only compounded by people who have immuno compromised systems due to prior-infections they are getting under control. The same can be said for those who are under temporary/permanent treatment from chemo-therapy/HIV(AIDS).

Another problem comes in the form of cross species diseases which is called http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/ghaffar/zoonoses.htm and results in some very dangerous pathenogens. I believe Swin Flu maybe a case of this where you had a rapidly mutating strain of virulent material. Once the coding actually "clicked," it managed to infect a human who then starts a chain reaction. It must be gotten under control before things start to spread like wildfire.

Most disturbing case I read so far was about a serious disease that is resistant to high end, intravenus antibiotics. Some of the new stuff coming out makes MRSA and SARS look like your garden variety, 24hr flu bug that you get over with some warm soup and a good night's rest.
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Post » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:51 pm

It's morons who don't complete the antibiotic course the doctor has prescribed them that have caused this problem. You reap what you sow and what grows could be very dangerous in the future.
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Post » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:18 am

What is wrong with you.
ha I second his :yuck:

I like tea with tea...hot and straight up with no lemon or sticky bug anus syrup to taint the tea taste :tongue:

It's also gotta be black tea or lipton brown, none of that fancy flavored crap or green herbal garbage that everyone loves now
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Post » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:50 pm

Solution to this is simple: Bacteriophages.
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