Fallout 2 has a ton of different ending slides. It's definitely not all clear. The Chosen One could have a Tribal kid from the Bishop daughter and everything.

The video in question is a camcorder video of the first ten minutes of New Vegas - meaning thus, the full intro (which is longer than what has been shoen before) plus some time with the Doc. But since the video appears to have been taken without permission, I wouldn't recommend that you post it here if you actually found it.



Well, most stories tend to follow the "Star Wars" guideline here - the "lightside" ending is ALWAYS canon :shifty:

They could be copycats - or all the Khans weren't completely wiped out as we were lead to believe. Remember, just because we wiped out their base of operations doesn't mean they're done... no matter how many times we might blow them up... *Cough* Enclave... *Cough*.

The Good ending of Fallout One was the Canon ending. Logic would say the Good ending to Fallout 2 will be as well. NCR has made it to Las Vegas. How could they have done it without the help of the chosen one the amount of time since FO2? Good ending is the canon ending. Maybe Beth will change that with FO4. I doubt the devs of New Vegas (many that worked on the originals) will change it so that Chosen One turns out to have been the "scourge of the wasteland."

That's generally it for Fallout and Fallout 2. Though you err, the removal of the Khans wasn't part of the requirements for an expansion of the NCR. The squatters would just have wasted away, the Khans just left.

True it was not a mission requirement to help the squatters but NCR would have taken Vault 15 from the squatters by force at some point. NCR would have found out about the Khans at some point. Vault 15 would have ended up in the hands of NCR at some point. It's just the chosen one speed things up a couple of years.

Helping the squatters is apart of the good ending. If you don't and they just go away or NCR kills them that's not good. Chosen one also helped NCR gain control of Vault City and Redding.

I still think the most logical thing is the Chosen one did not kill all the New Khans. Someone took control of the remaining New Khans changed the name and moved East to get out of the NCR lands. Seeing as how NCR would not want their kind around and make life harder for them.

Vegas isn't that far from the NCR capitol. Even if their expansion was slowed it wouldn't be unreasonable at all for them to reach Vegas after nearly four decades.

If the Chosen One did not help NCR in Fallout two. NCR would have had a really hard time. NCR was pretty much a single City State. They had plans to expand and chances are they could have without the help of the Chosen One but it would have cost them more if he/she was not around to help.

Also it would svck if there is no mention of how the Chosen One helped NCR. NCR has a statue of the Vault Dweller. I want to see things like that. I want to hear things about the chosen one, good things. It would svck to learn that the Chosen one had no effect on NCR or worce yet tried to destroy NCR.

I think this might be explained in the All Roads graphic novel.

Not much. Really, the only meaningful impact the Chosen One could have on the NCR in Fallout 2 was basically who ran the show, and all of the potential leaders were obviously interested in expansion. Some of them were more interested than others, but all of them could have started a push and their successors could have easily reached Vegas in four decades.



The Chosen One had an impact on the world by saving it from the Enclave's aerial FEV virus regardless of karma, so whether or not he or she helped the NCR is somewhat inconsequential. His or her achievements are much more significant than simply helping one government. They certainly achieved legendary hero status regardless of what they chose to do with the NCR.

You just helped my point. Chosen One help desided who ran the show. It could have been Vault City that gained control of Redding. It could have been New Reno in charge of Redding. Point is NCR gained control. This means NCR got the gold NCR became powerful and was able to take over Vault City. If not for the Chosen one helping NCR it might have been Vault City in New Vegas not NCR. NCR would not have become as powerful as they are in New Vegas.



Only the people of Vault 13 and Arroyo would know the Chosen One saved the world. So he/she would not have become a "legendary hero" regardless of Karma.

For me the story for New Vegas would just svck if any ending other then the good ending was used. I want to hear good things from NCR and Marus about the Chosen One not bad things or nothing at all. I want to hear about how the Chosen One followed in the footsteps of the Vault Dweller and helped the western wasteland/ NCR.

It had better not be explained exclusively in All Roads. I should be able to find out information like that from the game.

Not everything you could do is canonical, you could have slaughtered everyone in the NCR and boom no New Vegas

Vault City? Xenophobic, isolationist Vault City? Are we thinking of the same Vault City here? Also, the NCR can take over Vault City no matter who gets Redding.



No, everyone in New Reno knows, as does Lynette in Vault City. This suggests that the Chosen One's victory over the Enclave is common knowledge, just like the Vault Dweller's victory over the Master is common knowledge.



And I'd rather things be left ambiguous so the player can decide how things played out. :shrug:

True NCR can take Vault City without Redding but the Chosen One does help out. If Vault City had no intrest in expanding why would they want Redding. They may be xenephobic but this does not mean they don't want more power. Still it's pointless to go on about it we know what happened. Chosen One helped out NCR and they grew to the power they are now.



It's been sometime since I bothered to play after the ending. I don't doubt you on this. For me the game ends after the credits I don't care much for walking around the wasteland after. I also do every quest so there is nothing left for me to do.

I just hate ambiguous endings. I like having clear endings. To me FO2's good ending is the canon ending and I hope the Devs make it so. If not it will take some of the joy out of New Vegas. I am looking forward to stories from Marcus about the hero in the West (Chosen One) and even the Vault Dweller. I want to hear about the good things done in FO2. I don't want to findout the Chosen One was a scourge of the wasteland or has become forgotten by the NCR or anyone else from the west.

I think the Great Khans are most likely survivors of the New Khans. Tandi mentioned that some of the diplomats and soldiers that she sent out to Vault 15 never returned, however she couldn't prove that Khans were responsible. This means that they have small raiding parties operating in that area who could have survived your liberation of the Vault.

After the NCR took control of the area, the Khan survivors were hunted down by the NCR Rangers and Military Police, they were forced to retreat all the way to the east were the NCR's presents were much weaker compared to the Core Region. There they took control of the unorganized raiders in the area and regrouped. They know that they can't destroy the NCR anymore, but they will whatever they can to make life hard for them.

And BTW, in Van Buren Chrissy became a Corporal in the NCR military that is stationed in the Hover Dam. I hope that she will appear in New Vegas!

The NCR has weak presents? I didn't even know they gave out presents! :rofl:

Now, now, don't go make fun of someone's spelling errors. :angry:

i hate the ncr i killed them at every opportunity i had i hope in the game i hear stores of how the chosen one killed them at every opening he got


death to the ncr :gun: :dead:

Its all in good fun man im not trring to insult his intelligence or anything :cookie:

Vault City isn't interested in expanding. They wanted Redding only for the resources, Vegas has nothing to offer them. In fact considering their stance on New Reno they would go out of their way to avoid contact with Vegas. Vault City has no tolerance for vice.



Okay I'm only going to say this one more time, we don't know anything yet. Have you extensively played New Vegas before everyone else here and know something that we don't? The NCR could have expanded to Vegas within 40 years regardless of the ending they got in Fallout 2.



And other people would prefer the Chosen One to be evil, or even neutral. I'd rather the Chosen One's path be kept ambiguous so that it doesn't trample over how people played Fallout 2, and so I don't feel obligated to play Fallout 2 like so when I replay it. What's the point of offering all of that freedom if you're just going to canonize certain epilogues in the sequel? It's best to either keep the player character's choices ambiguous, or use a save game importing feature like in Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2.

What comes to the Vault City conversation, Vault City couldn't take control over the wastes. They are too small and there are so many problems they had, they would've needed NCR in the long run whatever Chosen One chose to do. They would have been doomed after the uranium in the Broken Hills ran out, NCR was the only choice for them since they are the only ones able to provide the uranium Vault City needs. And NCR wasn't just a city state in Fallout 2, Hub and Dayglow were part of it.

What comes to the Khans whichever ending you get in Fallout 2, it doesn't rule out the Great Khans, but it's probable that Chosen One wiped them out from Vault 15. But as it was stated earlier, Vault 15 was just a base of operations and a tool in Darion's revenge.

The women they kidnaped, were not exactly treated nicely in either FO's.
So I can only guess one or more were pregnant and some of the kids found out.. and developed a complex about being the bastard offspring to psycho rapists, and followed suit .

I am an old school fan and I have been waiting for a Fallout that will be on the West Coast again. A fallout that would be alot like the Originals and hopefully pick up some of the main story elements of the first two. FO3 was not it. I say I do know what happens because FO2 tells us what happens. Fallout 2 used the canon ending of Fallout one (the good ending). It makes sense that FO New Vegas use the good ending to Fallout 2. If the devs change that it would svck IMO. I thought that was the point of multiple endings to show people what would happnen if they played another way but one ending would be the canon ending. In this case the good ending.

Anyways you are right I have not played the game (New Vegas) so I don't truelly know. I am just hoping and stating my opinion. Just have to wait an play the game which is only 10 days away .

Was a long time since Fallout 2's ending sliders but I think it would be nice with an evil ending being canon for once.
Isn't it always that the good ending is the canon ending?
Why can't one of the protagonists have been a bad guy?
Otherwise it's a very linear pattern IMO.