Whenever I enter High Hrothgar the only greybeard that approaches me is Arngeir and others are all around the place doing their own thing instead of being in a group. I can still learn the word Ro, it appears on the floor even without Einarth there but I can't "tap into his understating of the word". Ro doesn’t unlock and the quest won't advance even if I find and talk to Einarth. I've tried exiting and entering again both before and after talking to Arngeir, I've tried waiting, I've tried leaving and fast travailing back, even when Einarth is in the room by chance it still doesn’t work, I’ve tried not doing the supply quest, I even started the entire game over again because I wasn't completely happy with that character anyway and wanted to change my race but got the same glitch with my second character as well.

Is anyone else having this problem and is there a way to fix it?

I could probably use console commands but I would rather not have to do that.


Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Edit: well that kills that idea, even the set stage (MQ105 is the right code for this quest, right?) cheat isn't working.

Seems http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1322230-stuck-in-way-of-the-voices/
setstage MQ105 40 does nothing too.
Actually it says stage not found
setsage MQ105 140 ends the quest and break it (Ro is not activated and no other shout are learnt)

Let's hope someone here or @Bethesda will offer us a good present for Xmas

PS: Did you took "Klimmek's Supplies "quest too ?

Edit: I speak to soon!
I took "Kiimmek's supplies" aswell but even when I reloaded and didn't take that quest I still hit this bug. O well, I guess I'll just not do the main quest for now.
Thank you.

You should be able to use the console to teach yourself the "Ro" word by using "player.teachword 13E23"

Source: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/User_talk:Bign0se

Thanks generalnm
I'm going to try it

[edit]

nope, no luck
Ro is unlocked as console says, but sill greyed out in shouts menu
While Einarth still looks at the cellar...
Any luck with yours, Rakiah ?

You can give your self dragon souls "player.modav dragonsouls #" and unlock it that way rather than using his knowledge.
This still didn't advance the quest tho.
Perhaps I can use console commands to get and unlock the shouts we should have got, finish the quest and start the next one. I haven’t had time to try that yet and see if it screws anything else up but I will in later and update if it works.

Ok, I'm about to leave for work but this is the progress I've made.
I did the quest up till when you’re suppose to absorb the knowledge form Einarth. Then used player.modav dragonsouls 2 to get souls to spend and player.teachword 2f7bb to learn Wuld. Used the dragon souls to unlock these two shouts then used setstage MQ105 140. This finshed the quest and Arngeir gave me the next one so I think everything is back on track now.
Thanks for the help guys. I hope this works for you too Gaba and that this is the end of the issues.

Was wondering...
Did you use showracemenu on you character ?
I can't remember if I did it on that one or on first try (before I dropped Skyrim waiting for a proper PC UI)
showracemenu tends to mess up skills and stat, wonder if it could cause that too
Gonna try to reroll while waiting for answer from Support

[censored] it!
I thought he had given me the quest but he hadn't, he just updated my map with where the tomb is. I could go there, get the note, go to the inn, the event with Delphine happens and I can start "a blade in the dark" fine (it actually is in my journal) but if I return the horn to the greybeards he thanks me for it and tells me Wulfgar will teach me the last word of unrelenting force but once again nothing happens.
I read that there was meant to be a free dragon soul in the tomb? I never got that either.

I did use showrace menu to tweak something right at the start but I don't think that’s it, it never screwed up my stats because I didn’t change my race and my friend used it as well but never had any issues.

That is what I was suspecting.
Setstage is not a simple tool to use, as some stage in 1 quest can also trigger stage in other quest (ie stage 30->40 in Main quest also trigger stage 20 in quest yyy)

hopefully someone will find a valid fix
with all the problems related to this quest, Bethesda should really look at it

I'm experiencing the same glitch and I think it may have something to do with the latest patches.

In the first game I started (1.0 / 1.1) I had no problems with that quest - everything went like expected: assembly in the main hall of all graybeards, learning the shouts etc.
Now the main difference is that only master Arngeir is active when entering High Hrothgar. The other greybeards are passive, in various places, mostly kneeling down to 'pray', and aren't available for interaction. If Arngeir tells you that you will learn a new shout, Einarth is either not present at all or just kneeling down praying. The shout runes appear nevertheless (even if Einarth is outside) and I'm able to learn the shout.
The following 'pass the knowledge' part doesn't work.

I don't think it has anything to do with the 'deliver goods' quest since I took that also on the mentioned first playthrough.

Things I tried (and combined) so far:

- sleeping in breezehome for a complete cell reset before entering High Hrothgar
- removing all mods, textures, meshes and .dlls
- going manually through all the available quest stages with setstage (as per the list shown by sqs mq105)
- entered High Hrothgar from the other side (courtyard door)
- returning to an earlier save (in fact it was a save which was quite at the beginning, ~5 hours played)

By going through the quest stages manually I got all the shouts and learned them (without using the console). in the quest log every entry was complete, although the one where you have to hit 3 targets showed as (0/3).
I got the final speech by Arngeir (find the horn of jurgen windcaller) and the update on the map but the quest didnt start (no log update). So the main quest doesn't continue.

The next thing I'll try is to start a new character and go directly for the main quest.

I'm having the same issue with this quest, so I decided to do a fresh reinstall of the game sans any mods (esps, texture/mesh updates, etc).

With an entirely new character, went through the main quest up to "The Way of the Voice" leading to the same issue where Arngeir speaks with me and I learn Ro, but since the other Greybeards aren't gathered in the entryway, the quest doesn't update past that (glitches were I should get Einarth's understanding of Ro).

Therefore, I'm convinced the newest patch is at fault.

Ok then. No new character for me. In fact I don't mind skipping the main quest. PISE with AI Tweaks is fun...

Thanks for your in input
We must all open ticket @ Bethesda support so they'll be aware of problem

I am also experiencing this bug as are some folks on the Nexus forums.

Have tried a great number of the potwntial workarounds proposed here already...

Reverting to older saves, cell resets, rerolls, re-installs, vanilla or modded all to no avail.

Console manipulation to advance the quest-line through setstage and teachperk commands can be used to finish Way of the Voice, however Main quest will NOT advance this way. To clarify- Map will update but the task to retrieve Jurgen Wincallers Horn will not appear in quest journal and retrieval of said horn will be of NO significance at all.

I also presume that this is patch related and have already contacted Bethesda support and encourage everone here to do the same.

Until we get a response/fix from Bethesda or someone finds a workaround the MQ is broken for us....

Hi guys.

I'm also experiencing this bug on PC.
After some searching, I was able to continue the quest line.

I tried the command "setstage mq105 70". With this, the task with Einarth ended, the second word of the shout was learned and (apparently) the quest will continue without errors...

Someone esle can test it?

I have made some gains through setstage commands as well (since my last post).

- Used player.sqs MQ105 to learn all available stages then activated them sequentially up to stage 140.
This successfully completed "Way of the Voice" and updated my map to include Ustengrav.
It was necessary for me to use a Dragon Soul to learn Ro. ( Was probably due to a missed stage since Whirlwind was granted ok)
Quest to recover the horn did not appear in my journal.

-I then recovered the Horn and "Blade in the Dark" added to my journal without mishap.
Returned to Hrothgar before progressing and returned the Horn. No quest update (since I did not have the quest...)

-Since setstageMQ105Ustengrav was ineffectual I resumed manually adding remaining stages of MQ105 (160 thru 300).
Successfully learned last rank of "unrelenting Force" AND got the "greeting".
Afterwards I was able to get the location of a Shout Wall normally.

All of this was without Any response from the bugged Greybeards!!!

Since then I have progressed along the MQ normally thru Diplomatic Immunity at least.
Will have to see what happens when the story sends me back to Hrothgar....

Hope this will be useful to someone.

didn't work for me, but 80 made quest log go forward... in a way
Target don't appear, using setstage then doesn't make Borri go to the courtyard.
Seems someone at Bethesda will have to look at greybeards scripts.
Unless there is a way of loading/reseting a script in a cell

Clean install with the latest patch does indeed break this quest line. Arg. So now I have to wait until it is fixed. Not a good experience for a new player.

Do any of you have companions with you ?

Can't remember how many times I need to park them at the door or kick them to the curb, just so they won't interfere with scripting.

Couldn't do first College quest ( magic shield thingee ) The teacher wouldn't fire off a round until I left Lydia at the door.

Save save save...

First time I went to College, dragon attacked breaking Tour script. Went back to earlier save, left Tavern..Dragon..now no dragon at college to bork things up.

But if a re-install doesn't fix it I don't know what to say.

Are you entering from the back door? This is known to cause the quest to not progress normally. Exiting and entering from the front entrance may fix the problem.

Nope, not entering from the back door and I didn't have any companion with me at the time. Guess we will just have to wait for a patch. At least skyrim has plenty of other things to do.

** snipped large set of console commands **


Oh it was indeed useful. Had this exact same bug myself talked about here in this thread and I've used the commands and outline provided above by hippiluv to advance past this point in the main quest 3 full quests onward and no issues so far. I haven't had to go back to High Hrothgar as of yet for the main quest so further console wizardry may be necessary if things are still borked up but so far things are proceeding normally.

Funny I never had this problem on my last character on v1.1 of the game, The Greybeards all perfomed to the the script pefectly. Oh Bethesda... *sigh*. In any case, thanks very much hippiluv for the outline of what you did, saved the main quest in my game (so far at least heh).