This game will fail. Mark my words.

Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:43 pm

They seem dx9 almost, and seem slightly tooned compared to skyrim. The visuals that I've seen in videos for this that is. They don't look right at all compared to skyrim.

Honestly from the video's I've seen, with skyrim and the HD texture pack and other very popular graphical enhancement mods this is looking rather fail. I've been playing every elder scrolls game including expansions since morrowind but this really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There's also the fact that some gameplay elements in mmo's compared to the elder scrolls are like oil and water in difference. Also, this likely won't be moddable since it is an mmo.

I can literally see this failing harder than SWTOR. I have all the love in the world for the elder scrolls, but this online thing.... after watching several videos of this game in action it just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. I honestly hope this gets canceled before the elder scrolls falls off its wagon. Nobody thought diablo could fail, it did. Nobody saw CoD failing, it did. There are very few giant franchise titles left that still hold some dignity and I don't see any in this mmo whatsoever.

If you want to add multiplayer co-operative functionality to a standard elder scrolls game then that could potentially work very well if done correctly. But mixing this mmo gameplay and you're literally asking for a nuclear disaster. It's like walking into the depths of chernobyl on purpose.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:21 pm

Oh well, i guess it's back to that cesspit called mmorpg.com where threads like these are welcomed by the mods, nothing like a good hearty well thought out thread to get the juices flowing.

Bye. :wavey:
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:55 am

I'll keep that in mind while me and my friends are playing this game.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:44 am

The possibilty exists, of course, however I have a lot of faith in this development team because they always say that first and foremost they have to make a kick ass game that is lots of fun to play. If they can manage to do that it will not fail, simple as that. Graphics DO NOT decide if a game fails or not, especially in the MMO genre. As long as there is tons of fun things to do and the graphics are not dated back to the days of Ultima Online, which they are not, then they do not matter one bit. Maybe that matters to you but you will be in the minority not the majority.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:28 pm

I dont know what do you mean by fail, I enjoy SWTOR so definately it is now a fail, and it is an active game so it makes a profit, so it is also not a fail for its company. Most likely I will enjoy story of TES online and it will generate profits, so what else I can want than a game that is running and provides me with a lore that I like to read/play.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:03 am

The possibilty exists, of course, however I have a lot of faith in this development team because they always say that first and foremost they have to make a kick ass game that is lots of fun to play. If they can manage to do that it will not fail, simple as that. Graphics DO NOT decide if a game fails or not, especially in the MMO genre. As long as there is tons of fun things to do and the graphics are not dated back to the days of Ultima Online, which they are not, then they do not matter one bit. Maybe that matters to you but you will be in the minority not the majority.

I can clearly see the same thing happening here that did in SWTOR. bioware had never done a big multiplayer game before so they hired a bunch of different people who worked on various mmo's and look how it turned out. They have next to no experience internally with multiplayer rpg mechanics which is exactly what happened to bioware.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:39 pm

Deep down, I wish that it fails, so that TES6 will have one book mentioning some weird abnormally that happened during 2nd Era, everyone was having a bad dream about some war that didn't happen.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:57 pm

If it fails I'll quit.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:11 am

Another doom mongering topic? Jeez give it a rest. Let those that actually want to play the game enjoy it. What's the point in trying to spoil it for everyone?
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:36 pm

Another doom min getting topic? Jeez give it a rest. Let those that actually want to play the game enjoy it. What's the point in trying to spoil it for everyone?

Spoiling what? I was giving my honest to god opinion on what I think of this. Being the dedicated elder scrolls really devoted fan that I am I decided to attempt to save this disaster before it happens by throwing my opinion out there. Sorry if this isn't the first doom-and-gloom I've never even been in this forum section before I just looked deeper into this elder scrolls online game and came here to share my thoughts about how I felt.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:06 pm

I can clearly see the same thing happening here that did in SWTOR. bioware had never done a big multiplayer game before so they hired a bunch of different people who worked on various mmo's and look how it turned out. They have next to no experience internally with multiplayer rpg mechanics which is exactly what happened to bioware.

SWTOR failed because Bioware tried to make it a single player experience and you could get to level cap never forming a group at all, ever. The only time you needed a group in SWTOR was flashpoints and heroic quests, even the heroic 2 quests most of them I solo'ed because my class had stealth. Bioware did not attempt to make an MMO instead they attempted to make KOTOR 3 with multiplayer options. Matt Firor knows how to make a very good MMO and Dark Age of Camelot is his example of that because it is still going today and that is longer then even WoW has been around.

Anyway it won't fail because you think it will....or because you hope it will.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:52 am

SWTOR failed because Bioware tried to make it a single player experience and you could get to level cap never forming a group at all, ever. The only time you needed a group in SWTOR was flashpoints and heroic quests, even the heroic 2 quests most of them I solo'ed because my class had stealth. Bioware did not attempt to make an MMO instead they attempted to make KOTOR 3 with multiplayer options. Matt Firor knows how to make a very good MMO and Dark Age of Camelot is his example of that because it is still going today and that is longer then even WoW has been around.

Anyway it won't fail because you think it will....or because you hope it will.

It's my opinion that it's going to fail, and badly. It's the same thing that happened to diablo 3. They changed the gameplay up too much, my bioware reference is also more theoretical evidence supporting how I feel about it. "It wont fail because you say so." Well lol, i'm if the opinion that it is going to fail, I literally have no doubt in my mind at all, especially after watching videos of the gameplay. If you don't agree, that's fine. I've been playing games for a very long time and I've never been more sure about a game failing before than I am of this one.

After beta testing diablo 3 for a while I seriously had bad doubts, I mean real bad doubts, but I gave it a shot hoping the developers would see some common sense but in the end I had to get a refund. That's the only singular time I wasn't sure if a game was going to work or not.

This one? I have no doubt at all. This is going to fail overnight.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:58 pm

Ladies, Gentleman, let me break this thread (Cracks Knuckles)

They seem dx9 almost, and seem slightly tooned compared to skyrim. The visuals that I've seen in videos for this that is. They don't look right at all compared to skyrim.

It's an MMO, characters are meant to be designed so there are hundreds of them at screen, they don't look that bad, you are just taking the piss.

Honestly from the video's I've seen, with skyrim and the HD texture pack and other very popular graphical enhancement mods this is looking rather fail. I've been playing every elder scrolls game including expansions since morrowind but this really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There's also the fact that some gameplay elements in mmo's compared to the elder scrolls are like oil and water in difference. Also, this likely won't be moddable since it is an mmo.

From what I've seen in the videos, they are doing a superb job, there is a lot of sinergy for tthe players and it's done like an Elder Scrolls game. Also yes, it's a [censored] MMO, what do you expect? But Zenimax said that they will allow us to mod some parts (Like Modding the appearance of armor and weapons)

I can literally see this failing harder than SWTOR. I have all the love in the world for the elder scrolls, but this online thing.... after watching several videos of this game in action it just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. I honestly hope this gets canceled before the elder scrolls falls off its wagon. Nobody thought diablo could fail, it did. Nobody saw CoD failing, it did. There are very few giant franchise titles left that still hold some dignity and I don't see any in this mmo whatsoever.

You have given us absolutely no reason to claim that it will fail. Besides how the [censored] do you compare T.E.S Franchise with COD, you are talking like if they made an MMO, also some "giant franchises" don't need a MMO (like Halo) and stay because their games sell.


If you want to add multiplayer co-operative functionality to a standard elder scrolls game then that could potentially work very well if done correctly. But mixing this mmo gameplay and you're literally asking for a nuclear disaster. It's like walking into the depths of chernobyl on purpose.

As much as I want a cooperative experience in Elder Scrolls games, It's a single player franchise, also TESO is a spin-off, not part of the main series. Finally you haven't even played the game and all we have got so far is a [censored] 9 minute video that in my opinion fails to dissapoint.


Oh yeah I nearly forget something, this is developed by Zenimax, not Bethesda, the guys from Beth are probably starting the development of the next Fallout/Elder Scrolls game.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:02 pm



Spoiling what? I was giving my honest to god opinion on what I think of this. Being the dedicated elder scrolls really devoted fan that I am I decided to attempt to save this disaster before it happens by throwing my opinion out there. Sorry if this isn't the first doom-and-gloom I've never even been in this forum section before I just looked deeper into this elder scrolls online game and came here to share my thoughts about how I felt.

So, besides the graphics (which were made that way purposely so as they don't date as easily as say the graphics will in Skyrim) what else do you know about the game?

Graphics is a pretty poor reason to think a game will fail. And there is no way they could make an MMO ES game like the SP games. It's a different style of playing.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:45 am

If you can't discern a game from watching actual gameplay video then I duno what to tell you, maybe you need to put more gaming hours under your belt.

JD_2012, putting a single player experience in an MMo doesn't actually offer anything in the end because its still surrounded by mmo mechanics which limits the overall experience in the end, and in the end other mmo's that don't do that do it better. Guild wars 2 is proof of this.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:11 am

I was in the beta for SWTOR and so often during that time Bioware would make a presentation video and every single time I was left shaking my head saying, these guys are heading towards dissaster and they don't even realize it. Why? Because every presentation they made was an attempt from them to win our approval, and a self pat on their collective backs. After every video Daniel Erickson would say, "How cool was that!" or some other method of patting all the devs on the back, with the ESO team it is a lot different when they show us things and talk about things. They show us and then WAIT for out oppinion they never try to pat themselves on the back and beg for our approval, that is the difference between a successful development team and one that fails.

The reason Diablo 3 failed is because Blizzard got so greedy that they opened their own Ebay, the RMAH...no other reason. That completely defeats the purpose of playing an Action RPG, once you can buy your way to victory there is no reason to play, none.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:17 am

Spoiling what? I was giving my honest to god opinion on what I think of this.

So you have given it now, i guess you will be moving on as this game has nothing that you would want, right?
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:35 pm

Look up the word literally...
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:11 pm

If you can't discern a game from watching actual gameplay video then I duno what to tell you, maybe you need to put more gaming hours under your belt.

JD_2012, putting a single player experience in an MMo doesn't actually offer anything in the end because its still surrounded by mmo mechanics which limits the overall experience in the end, and in the end other mmo's that don't do that do it better. Guild wars 2 is proof of this.

Not what I said but ok . . .

So, what do you know about the game that makes you so sure it'll fail?
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:15 pm

So you have given it now, i guess you will be moving on as this game has nothing that you would want, right?

Yeah, was just throwing my opinion out there. When it comes out I really hope some people do enjoy it, I already know that I am not going to be one of those people. Anyhow, I'm out for now, I just came in here in the hopes of... well anything to be honest. I do not want to see the elder scrolls turn into the rest of these crap games that is all. You fans can enjoy your forum now I won't be posting here any longer cuz I can see I've upset people who frequent this forum regularly.
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Post » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:33 pm

They seem dx9 almost, and seem slightly tooned compared to skyrim. The visuals that I've seen in videos for this that is. They don't look right at all compared to skyrim.

Honestly from the video's I've seen, with skyrim and the HD texture pack and other very popular graphical enhancement mods this is looking rather fail. I've been playing every elder scrolls game including expansions since morrowind but this really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There's also the fact that some gameplay elements in mmo's compared to the elder scrolls are like oil and water in difference. Also, this likely won't be moddable since it is an mmo.

I can literally see this failing harder than SWTOR. I have all the love in the world for the elder scrolls, but this online thing.... after watching several videos of this game in action it just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. I honestly hope this gets canceled before the elder scrolls falls off its wagon. Nobody thought diablo could fail, it did. Nobody saw CoD failing, it did. There are very few giant franchise titles left that still hold some dignity and I don't see any in this mmo whatsoever.

If you want to add multiplayer co-operative functionality to a standard elder scrolls game then that could potentially work very well if done correctly. But mixing this mmo gameplay and you're literally asking for a nuclear disaster. It's like walking into the depths of chernobyl on purpose.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Why on earth are you wasting your time on these forums if you don't plan on playing the game? Knitting bores me to tears, but I'm on on the knitting forums (if such a thing exists) mocking those who do enjoy it. Do us both a favour, and go do something you'll actually enjoy instead of clogging these forums with pointless whining.
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Post » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:53 am

Dude this is is The Elder Scrolls, it shall not fail.
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