I honestly don't believe that there are more people who hate this game than there are that enjoy it. But when I come on to these boards, all I see are sad people complaining. Its fine to have critiques of the game, but when people are phrasing them in terms of omfg this feature is bleh bleh bleh, this game svcks. I question the very nature of their post, because honestly, all these negative threads are depressing as hell.

This makes me think, why are there so many negative threads on these forums. Heres my opinion so far. People who enjoy the game don't make posts as often, as they are playing the game on their free time. People who don't enjoy the game as much uses these boards to vent, not necessarily all because some threads are very constructive and not cry-babyish at all.

Anyways, I hope people who enjoy the game can take a small chunk of time to make a positive thread, just to fill these forums up with something cool to read. My last thread was about my determined practice of assassinating chickens to spite all the citizens of skyrim who covet and protect their chicken.

btw last point, for a game as terrible as fable 3, i can understand the degree of anger from their fan base. But from this game? comeon, this game is no where as bad as any one you who claim it to be. Out of proportion.

It's called exaggerating. A lot of the complainers still have good points.

And that "people who like the game are playing it and not on the forums" argument is so incredibly overused and most likely trumped by the fact that the majority of threads on this forum are indeed positive. It's just the negative ones that gain more attention due to people wanting their opinion heard, or perhaps people that can't deal with other people's opinions.

This happens with every game after release, people hype it up too much and are disappointed.

Everyone has different tastes and expectations, some have genuine technical problems, some feel they can offer a genuine suggestion to improve the game, and of course others just want to vent/rant/complain etc.
Just ignore the negative threads and enjoy the few positive ones. As long as you enjoy the game, thats what matters

That and what most people seems to talk about are game balances! How this build is superior to others and whatnot. I missed the time when people talk about their character and its adventures, the people they met, the things that get reactions from them... BUT I suppose you can't really talk about them as it would be considered spoilers... so I partly blame the forum for not having Discussion with spoilers section (And no I don't think it should be at cheat/spoiler section either since the point is to share game adventure and not help other players cheat)

Eh... this forum has an excellent spoiler section http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/forum/178-skyrim-cheats-hints-and-spoilers/

great response. I do feel that way. Its just tiresome to see that a lot of hopeful suggestions aren't phrases in their intended context. Because honestly, if you like the game and want it to improve, you would offer a constructive thread that bethesda reps/mods won't write off as a simple bash thread and will actually pay attention to.

This is how it is for every official forum of a video game - years on the WoW forums has taught me this.

The general rule of thumb is, only those who have complaints bother to start threads. They're a vocal minority. The vast majority of the people who are loving this game, are too busy playing it. Very rarely someone will start a thread thanking Bethesda or talking about how great the game is.

Look at this way - Skyrim is up to what, 7 million copies sold? Probably more by now. The number of negative threads on this board really pales in comparison.

But the forum is just filled with bug reports and that sort of stuff.
Trying to find an actual thread about roleplaying here is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I suppose it goes hand in hand with the TES games taking a more action adventure approach, I can't say that I agree with that.



Sadly Blizzard had the exact same ideas, they just ignored the pleas to improve WoW on their forums and instead went for what was popular. (Quest helper springs to mind.)
As a result of this it turned a once perfectly good game into a streamlined, boring and childish pile of manure.

In an age when virtually 100% of games released are exercises in hand-holding? No surprise that the current crop of younger gamers are so majorly disappointed. What's the next best RPG younger than a year for XBox or PC? ME2? DAII? Linear handholds. RPGs? Certainly, but closed and restrictive nonetheless. Gothic 4 pretty much tanked (and went pretty linear as well). Other games like Skyrim? Oblivion, Morrowind, Gothic 3. That's it. Of those, for me, only Oblivion is still remotely playable to current standards. In short, TES V is different from the entire rest of teh gaming field, even the RPG field. When you're that different, people are going to complain about darn near everything. I can remember a day where (wait for it) Wasteland (oh, that's old) was trashed on BBSs, as were the D&D "Gold Box" games. Take it with a grain of salt, play the game, and wait for the packs.

other than there being no storm dragons and the altmer having the magicka boost theres not much to truly complain about and i gotta say i was a schoolgirl for this game and havent found myself dissapointed in the game itself im still shocked at how little ive found im only dissapointed in my ps3 for dying on me last night

Leave Skyrim alone!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Positive threads die quickly because they're usually just full of people agreeing with each other with no room for discussion.

The majority of people do seem to enjoy the game, but at the same time they come here to discuss the things they don't like or things they thought could've been done better. There's nothing wrong with that, and i'm sure Bethesda benefit more from this kind of feedback than they do from hearing "skyrim is amazing!!!" over and over again.

Thats because the millions of people enjoying the game don't give a crap about this board, they are currently playing skyrim.

So are you here to complain then? Or are you an exception of you claim, like many of us here. Yes there are things i hoped were different about Skyrim, and some things are bad for PC and some things are bad for console. For us PC users its just a matter of time before fixes are hurling out from modders eager to help us. Im gonna be one of those.

I fully agree with you. I came here first thinking that it would be a good community but I wonder. Now I'll only go to the non-complaining parts of the forum. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! :celebrate:

It's exactly because the same is so good, I think. The negative aspects rankle more strongly, because we know they could do better. We want this game to be near-perfect, because we know that Bethesda are capable of making a near-perfect game.

In a way it's a form of flattery, and Bethesda should be happy - if it was really just a bad game, and they were bad developers, no-one would take the time to get so hot under the collar about it all.

They should also listen, though, because there are some perfectly achievable improvements that could - and should - have been made.

I freaking hope Bethesda doesn't have this point of view. Thinking like this would absolutely stagnate any progress they could make towards a better TES VI.

Furthermore you can't prove it and it's probably not true. There's almost no one on these forums that hate the game, if anything they love the series too much and don't want Bethesda to change them too much.
The majority of the threads on these forums ARE positive, they just don't last as long as the negative ones and are thus pushed to page 5> quicker.



A community that cares about the series is a bad community now? What if everyone decides to ignore the complainers? How would Skyrim have looked if Bethesda did this after Oblivion?

Good point there, Bethesda could have done a lot better if it weren't for the fact the rusty consoles PS3 and XB360 limitations.

I just ignore the haters and rant topics. They haven't dented my interest in this game even slightly yet so hey, must be something to my method. Granted there are a few minor issues I have with the game, but nothing so bad I'll make a topic and write a huge thesis about how personally shafted I feel and blah-blah-blah-whine-cry.

Ugh, and how many of these threads have we had?

Look, I love Skyrim, but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore its flaws and sit gooey-eyed at the screen saying 'Bethesda has made everything perfect!'. I was looking forward to Skyrim as much as everyone else and it's BECAUSE I love the series that I'll be here talking about what Bethesda could have improved on. Some people might be complete jerks while saying these things, but that doesn't make what they're saying any less valid.

Just to see it from a very different perspective, Oblivion was very high-tech for its time so the expectations of graphics at least was enormous this time around.

where is the non-complaining part of the forums. I'd like to read up on some of the awesome adventures people've had.

i really like Skyrim, i'd give it ten out of ten and i complain about some features in it it as much as i want, personally i think it is a mistake to believe that anyone that has a few ciriticism's of the game doesn't like it, if there were no one commenting about the game i think that would be far more worrying.



Ah, you have said it far more eloquently than myself.

Sad... I think the importance of graphics has been pulled out of proportion.

The only praise I see Skyrim get (mostly from my RL friends) is "oh my god the game looks so beautiful", instead of "oh my god these quests are so amazing" or "oh my god there are so many options".