so me and a friend were looking at the pro's and con's of Oblivion and Skyrim, things we wished had been carried over from Oblivion to Skyrim and what we are glad wasn't, we started looking and how much they improved the weapons and armor then it dawned on us they left out short swords all together any thoughts on whether they will be implemented in future dlcs and who likes them dislikes them

take or leave them and i doubt htey will be since htey took em out today, but hey, who knows?

A shorter sword with higher swing speed would be nice but we already have curved swords. I mean CURVED... swords

The daggers are pretty frickin big, especially Deadric and Ebony. Powerful, too. Maybe we actually do have short swords but it's daggers we are missing.

They were far from an essential component. No, I'm happy with the range of weapons we have. Daggers, swords, axes, battle axes, warhammers, greats words, bows and good ol' magic is enough for me!

Short swords are for stabbing/thrusting as the only attack we have is swing there wouldnt be much point in including them.

I miss the short swords...

I miss then as welll....
Compared to Daggers or Longswords, they looked much cooler...

Elven shortsword, imho the coolest looking generic weapon in Oblivion. Sorely missed. Mind you, the new ebony sword has a similar vibe and is much better than the old one (again, imho), so it's swings and roundabouts.

My favorite weapons were shortswords or the equivalent of shortswords (daedric wakizashi FTW!) in all the past games, so I miss them a lot. I especially miss Chillrend being a shortsword.

Blah. I wish we had crossbows and pikes.
I mean, it's been 200 years since the Oblivion crisis. You'd think there'd be some sort of weapon development since then.

The theory we came up with at BGSFans was that Skyrim takes place in a near Dark Age of Tamriel, with various technologies either being lost or abandoned.

This does not excuse the loss of spears. We want them back damnit. And Medium Armor.

Ebony Dagger and Blade of Woe have the same attack speeds as swords, but other Daggers are faster, like the Daedric Dagger basically looks like a sword

I agree with Skooma_Fiend, the daggers are pretty big. I do miss the Elven shortsword from Oblivion (an Elven bow, an Elven shortsword and a light iron (enchanted) shield were my favorites).

Not a huge fan of the Elven weapons in Skyrim. They looked better, more "graceful?" in Oblivion.

i agree with you guys on alot of this but my fav swords to use where the elven short swords i mean those things are FRIGGIN GORGEOUS (imo) i personally feel the weapons and armor of Skyrim in general are for superior to those of Oblivion with exception to elven weapons, dont get me wrong i truly love Oblivion i have over 800 hrs in game time and i miss alot of aspects of oblivion especially amber weapons those things were gorgeous, i also agree that the daggers are big more so like dirks or short swords then daggers i just hope that 1 day we can get mods for console (PS3)

No need for short sowrds, since most of the 1h swords already look too small.

Someone already said it. There are short swords. They are called daggers.

Oh god , SPEARS

I miss shortswords
and throwing weapons
and spears
and crossbows
and rare matierials actually being rare
and the majority of the spells I used to use

and a skill to increase my jump hight
and a skill to increase my running speed

and attributes

There are crossbows. Those Dwarven Spheres have them, too bad we cannot rip their arm off and use it.

I never used short swords in Oblivion or Morrowind. So I do not miss them.

I don't really miss crossbows and pole-arms. Those are weapons for conscript farmers, not gentlemen adventurers like me.

The one problem with having too many weapon types in RPG's is that you sometimes have to define your character too narrowly at the creation screen. This is more of an issue with strict character classes like in Baldur's Gate than in Morrowind but you still have to think long and hard when choosing weapon specializations. Otherwise, you finally find something cool like the Warblade +4 but your guy chose shortsword instead of two handed and you have to pass it on to one of your followers.
Skyrim's perk system is actually well suited to this sort of issue. First you choose one handed, then you choose blade, then you could take long sword, short sword, or dagger. By the time you choose those perks, you probably already know who your character is and how he fights. Although I miss the attributes/skills system of the previous games, I will say that Skyrim lets you choose who your character is as you go, rather than be locked into a class right from the start.

Not true. See Kopis, Xiphos, Khopesh, Seax, etc.

Also not true. They are way too big. A medieval one hander is about 3 lbs, a bastard about 4 lbs, a two hander about 5 lbs. Early war axes were very light with blades only a few millimeters thick. The head of a mace was about the size of your fist, not your head. It doesn't take that much mass to kill a person. Swinging fast is more important than the weight of the weapon. Back in the day when their lives depended on it people understood that - seems to have been lost in the age of anime .

Now one more on topic - I like to use short swords for the first 10 or so levels. I RP that my character isn't good enough to use the larger weapons yet. Then I transition to better equipment.

For those who like short swords and play on the PC, there are plenty of mods out there including my own.