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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:20 pm

Crytek, if your reading this. Do us offline pc gamers a favor and don't make crysis 2 a "constant Internet connection required" type of game. Any other form of validation or Anti-piracy technique would be nice. It really bugs some of us, if you were playing those type of games and then the Internet suddenly goes off. (Learn from the mistakes of Assassin's Creed 2 and Splinter Cell - more illegal versions were used than avoided) The game stops and there's now way of saving your progress. This is far wo...rse for desktop players as well, cuz we can't bring those pc's out for wifi. And a gaming laptop is not as cost friendly to some than expected.

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des lynam
 
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:55 pm

I agree with you.

I understand that there must be a way to keep pirates away, but that's just inevitable. There are hackers who can crack every game and make it more playable for the pirates than the costumers. For example Assassin's Creed II. It svcked for the customers, but months later the DRM got cracked and pirates could enjoy the game, while the customers complain about progress save fail and stuff like that.
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Markie Mark
 
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:44 pm

Thanks, Kilowolf - it's good to know there are still some concerned gamers..
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Alan Whiston
 
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:45 pm

Pirates will crack the game in the first day which they will get it. So don't even try to make the game like this.
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Mark Hepworth
 
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:18 pm

Hate constant connection, ok if you in a multiplay, but we dont always all multiplay all the time, just a simple validate as with Crysis Warhead, thats fine, works for me !!
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:00 pm

[quote]Hate constant connection, ok if you in a multiplay, but we dont always all multiplay all the time, just a simple validate as with Crysis Warhead, thats fine, works for me !![/quote] Some of us think alike!!
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:51 pm

I know that is for prevent cracking, but someone will crack it anyway, and I didn't bought Assassins Creed II only because a constant internet conection was required, who was going to download illegaly will do it anyway, and many people who were going to buy don't.
If Crysis 2 requires it, i'll still buy it, but I'll be very disapointet
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:50 pm

Crytek doesn't really control what DRM gets put on their product. DRM is almost always from the Publisher.

Crysis 2 is going to be published by EA, and after that whole "Spore" mess with the DRM, it seems that EA has really backed off in the DRM area. Hate to say it but EA has actually doing it right since then.

It's Ubisoft that's doing the "Permanent Internet Connection" Personally I've stopped buying Ubisoft games because of it. Sorry Ubisoft, but this US Navy Sailor can't play your games out in the middle of the Atlantic thanks to your DRM.

I really liked the Silent Hunter series too.

Also, even though I loved Crysis 1, and Crysis Warhead, and made some great mods for it and I have plans for Crysis 2 modding, if it somehow adopts the "Persistent Internet" DRM, then I wont buy it. Internet is a luxury for US Servicemembers.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:14 pm

Wont happen, as long as EA is the publisher.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:44 pm

Crytek doesn't really control what DRM gets put on their product. DRM is almost always from the Publisher.

Crysis 2 is going to be published by EA, and after that whole "Spore" mess with the DRM, it seems that EA has really backed off in the DRM area. Hate to say it but EA has actually doing it right since then.

It's Ubisoft that's doing the "Permanent Internet Connection" Personally I've stopped buying Ubisoft games because of it. Sorry Ubisoft, but this US Navy Sailor can't play your games out in the middle of the Atlantic thanks to your DRM.

I really liked the Silent Hunter series too.

Also, even though I loved Crysis 1, and Crysis Warhead, and made some great mods for it and I have plans for Crysis 2 modding, if it somehow adopts the "Persistent Internet" DRM, then I wont buy it. Internet is a luxury for US Servicemembers.

Is it confirmed that they will release the SDK for the public? Anyway, a simple map editor would be greatly appreciated (similar to FC2 Map Editor or Hammer Editor).
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:17 am

Agreed. It's not like everyone's got internet all the time, some of us either don't have internet or can have problems with it, like your internet stops working for a while, you move to another place and so on...then you wouldn't be able to play even the SP part of the game. Hopefully it's not what crysis 2 is going to be like.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:53 pm

Agreed. It's not like everyone's got internet all the time, some of us either don't have internet or can have problems with it, like your internet stops working for a while, you move to another place and so on...then you wouldn't be able to play even the SP part of the game. Hopefully it's not what crysis 2 is going to be like.

That's a big hopefully for many of us.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:31 am

Well aside from the issue that any DRM requiring constant internet connection would be cracked shortly, wasting time, money and risking bad PR from internet hate is pointless. This game seems fairly "heavy", so I figure people won't risk bugged pirate releases (altho they probably can patch those too shortly) and lack of multiplayer, but I for one rather pay for a fully supported game.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:08 pm

I agree, the DRM is quite the issue at play here. The thing I hate with DRM's is that they just don't go away, after uninstalling Crysis, the DRM will remain in the computer unless removed by a 3rd party device that can remove the DRM. I loved Crysis but the DRM caused some bugging on my computer, something that I did not want.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:43 pm

Why don't they just do the activation method - using our accounts on gamesas (or emails, like how Apple sells their products today) and verify, thus allowing those who sign up to maintain verification that they bought Crysis 2, so they can monitor who owns them and who tries to pirate them. That way, maybe we don't have to be online all the time just to play ??
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:16 pm

@Tonyt2, here's the thread concerning some of our issues.

Thread Revived :)
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:45 pm

Die-hard Pc gamer!!!! Whoa!!!! :o
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Jack Walker
 
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Post » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:09 am

Die-hard Pc gamer!!!! Whoa!!!! :o

I'm no Die-Hard, I just care about Crysis 2, that's all.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:27 pm

I hope that crytek does what microsoft does with their PC Games when it comes to installing, they have options where you can activate tha game by internet or by phone and it ties the game to your motherboard and operating system. NO DRM required.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:37 pm

I hope that crytek does what microsoft does with their PC Games when it comes to installing, they have options where you can activate tha game by internet or by phone and it ties the game to your motherboard and operating system. NO DRM required.

!!!Crytek read this!!!
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:38 am

I hope that crytek does what microsoft does with their PC Games when it comes to installing, they have options where you can activate tha game by internet or by phone and it ties the game to your motherboard and operating system. NO DRM required.

That is an utterly stupid and horrible method. I am reinstalling and switching OS'es often to keep it clean and quick. And i am also switching pc parts now and then. Many others would be the same.

I really hope crysis 2 is not like this.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:09 pm

I hope that crytek does what microsoft does with their PC Games when it comes to installing, they have options where you can activate tha game by internet or by phone and it ties the game to your motherboard and operating system. NO DRM required.

That is an utterly stupid and horrible method. I am reinstalling and switching OS'es often to keep it clean and quick. And i am also switching pc parts now and then. Many others would be the same.

I really hope crysis 2 is not like this.

If you hate it so much, why don't you suggest another idea to prevent this one from ever coming true.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:29 pm

Thanks for the thread revival, because I agree with this issue.

I'm also an offline gamer, so a form of internet DRM (like Steam or always on internet) is also not possible for me. A quick online activation of your keycode (like Warhead) I can maybe do, but anything more than that I won't be able to do.

I agree companies should protect themselves against piracy, but they must not make it too difficult for their honest gamers :/
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:36 pm

This will always be a problem.
Every protection system is cracked eventually.
With PC games this is a bigger problem then with consoles. That is why gamedeveloppers more and more focus on consoles. Too bad for us PC gamers, but I can understand them. It costs a lot of money (and I really mean a lot) to develop a AAA-title. AAA titles cost more money to develop then the average A-movie.
Until a good solution is found against piracy, I don't see things becoming better for pc gamers.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:30 am

This will always be a problem.
Every protection system is cracked eventually.
With PC games this is a bigger problem then with consoles. That is why gamedeveloppers more and more focus on consoles. Too bad for us PC gamers, but I can understand them. It costs a lot of money (and I really mean a lot) to develop a AAA-title. AAA titles cost more money to develop then the average A-movie.
Until a good solution is found against piracy, I don't see things becoming better for pc gamers.

A good solution is making the multiplayer like bad company 2. Dedicated servers but no cracked servers as no source code was every gave out, the game has no online piracy.

Some gamers pirate for single player, sure, but that'll about the same amount who buy pirated xbox games anyway.

Plus, it's only a matter of time before torrent sites are formally shut down anyway, i'll give it 2-3 mroe years at most.
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