Which do you think has a more richer world, Tolkien or TES?

Both.

What now punk?

TES has had a team of writers for a fairly long time, and Tolkein did it alone but with a much longer timespan. In time TES should end up a richer universe, at the moment though it does not.

Tolkein by far.

Yep, not even a fair comparison.

The lore of Middle Earth gives the Elder Scrolls two black eyes, a bloody nose, a dislocated shoulder, a ripped-off beard, eight months of therapy and a really severe Indian burn.

You know what they say about too many cooks.

It doesn't say anything about quality.

They're totally different sorts of developed. Tolkien's languages and histories outstrip TES', but TES outdoes Tolkien in cultures and metaphysics. The difference in media and development style also makes the comparison rather unfair.

Tolkien.

And a single person did it too. Take that TES!

Wrong, Tolkien has a lot of culture developed for the various races of Men, Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits, and in some cases, the Orcs and Goblins.

A lot of TES's lore can be a bit vague, and so can some parts of Tolkien's lore, but at the end of the day, Tolkien still has much more lore depth in all categories.

And if you want to include the movies, it goes into further depth with some of the cultures, especially the orcs. Each set of orc armor in the movies is unique and symbolizes the orcs social status, such as color and shape of helmet.

You do not know Tolkein until you read the Silmarillion and some of his unreleased chapters/notes. The world that he created is absolutely FAN-[censored]-TASTIC! And, sorry LN, but Tolkein also has a lot of that going on in his writings. TES seems better, and that's solely on the sermons of Vivec. But even then, if you actually READ and digest all of what he wrote, it blows it out of the water.

This isn't even a fair question. The father of modern day fantasy versus a group of writers who change ideas on what they want their world to be like every game they release … not even close. Tolkien by far.

I agree with the answers so far, Tolkien. It's probably my favorite fantasy world.

I've read Silmarillion (many times), LotR, Hobbit, as well as various unfinished tales and other published materials. I stand by my statements, and nowhere did I say that Tolkien was anything other than great.

This is going to be like whaling on a cripple.

Tolkein. No question. You can read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, but in doing so you'll barely scratch the surface of the world Tolkein created. He envisioned a world with languages, races, history, culture and mythology going far beyond anything anyone else has ever managed to come near.

The Elder Scrolls are great by modern fantasy standards, but nothing today comes close to what Tolkein created with Arda.

I haven't read deeply into Tolkein's universe outside of the movies and from what little i've heard about the books, so take this with a grain of salt.

While Both Tolkien and MK/Bethesda's universes are quite in depth and taken care off, I personally prefer The Elder Scrolls universe. From what I know, the metaphysics in the Elder Scrolls are just mindblowing. And I do like the Stasis vs Change theme the lore generally uses. Much prefered over the Good vs Evil Tolkein's universe (Or atleast in his stories that reached the cinema status) theme.

I prefer TES lore over Tolkein's lore any day.

Well, the movies make TLOTR a bit more happy, like in the end of ROTK, they come home to find Isengard had enslaved The Shire and the four Hobbits liberated it. There's several other darker tones, but a lot of it is outside the LOTR books as well. But the tales involving Melkor trump most of the Lore of TES

They aren't the same...

Indeed. It bugs me to know end the moment a work of fiction is of medieval fantasy, people have to draw out the 'LOTR+__' comparisons.

Tolkien and GRRM are the best when it comes to high fantasy....

But atleast TES managed not to clone it.

I've heard worse. I once overhead a girl at my uni claim something along the lines of "Lord of the Rings is the most generic fantasy ever. It just rips off everything else"

I felt like running across the lecture theatre and slapping her.

Elder Scrolls by far.