Total War Discussion #4

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:31 am


Nope. All factions don't have the same militia especially the http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=176102 has one unique militia called Almohad Urban Militia, but I know there is other factions that has unique militia units.

Miltia units are militia units are militia units in my eyes :shrug:

Not saying I didn't like Medieval. I played the [censored] out of it, I understand the accuracy of the militia units representing levies and such. I just enjoyed the variance of Rome more.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:38 am

Miltia units are militia units are militia units in my eyes :shrug:

Not saying I didn't like Medieval. I played the [censored] out of it, I understand the accuracy of the militia units representing levies and such. I just enjoyed the variance of Rome more.
The Almohads was unique compared to other militia units, because they're armoured unlike the others in the early era and hard to fight against especially with light infantry unless you have the best light infantry to beat them in a fair fight. :smile:

I've played Medieval many times, but I agree Rome TW do have more varieties of units in both the imperial campaign and the barbarian invasion expansion.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:17 pm

I never deeply played a Muslim faction (not to be racist but it sounds like a Muslim unit :laugh: ) so I never noticed them I guess. The only long campaigns I played were England and Byzantines in vanilla, then a Venetian one in Stainless Steel.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:39 am

I never deeply played a Muslim faction (not to be racist but it sounds like a Muslim unit :laugh: ) so I never noticed them I guess. The only long campaigns I played were England and Byzantines in vanilla, then a Venetian one in Stainless Steel.
It's a Muslim faction. It is just a game and if you have tried to play the Spanish then you have to fight them for a long time I can promise you that, because the Almohads also had the Berber Camels IIRC which is a camel archer with average morale.

I can't remember what name the Byzantines generals bodyguard had, but they're VERY slow and was getting tired to quick because of too much armor.

Let me ask you is there a Stainless mod for Medieval TW or I've misunderstood you completely? If it's for Medieval TW then please provide a link. :smile:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:14 pm

It's a Muslim faction. It is just a game and if you have tried to play the Spanish then you have to fight them for a long time I can promise you that, because the Almohads also had the Berber Camels IIRC which is a camel archer with average morale.

I can't remember what name the Byzantines generals bodyguard had, but they're VERY slow and was getting tired to quick because of too much armor.

Let me ask you is there a Stainless mod for Medieval TW or I've misunderstood you completely? If it's for Medieval TW then please provide a link. :smile:

I never played Medieval 1, so every time I say Medieval, I mean Medieval 2.

Wait, have you been talking about Medieval 1 this whole time?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:25 pm

It works both ways bro. Worse for Christians because the majority of provinces still remain Buddhist. I personally try not to have more than four or five clans pissed at me at once and always try to keep a few really friendly clans (though without alliances). I also do not engage more than three clans in war at once.
I didn't declare war on any of them. All seven of the clans that hate me declared war on me at once. Needless to say I got pushed back quite a bit before I could start holding them off. Luckily for me, having your main town on an island help with defense.

Although my adoption of Blitzkrieg in the opposite direction of most of my enemies helped. Unfortunately that direction just so happened to be into Christian held lands.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:04 am

I've put it in.
Thanks.

I'm trying Stainless Steel for the first time now and am having a blast playing Denmark. I'm conquering Sweden now and preparing to fight Norway, while trying to get trade agreements with everyone on the Baltic and North Sea coasts. Managing the economy seems way too easy tough. My campaign has barely started and I am already drowning in money with literally nothing to spend it on (construction and recruitment queues are full).
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:02 pm

I never played Medieval 1, so every time I say Medieval, I mean Medieval 2.

Wait, have you been talking about Medieval 1 this whole time?
Yes we have since you don't told me about what you're referring too. :yes: That's okay with me since I've played both of them and have them as well. :biggrin:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:54 am

Yes we have since you don't told me about what you're referring too. :yes: That's okay with me since I've played both of them and have them as well. :biggrin:

Well that was my fault, sorry! :laugh:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:54 am

I really enjoyed playing as Hungary, I really liked the cheap, high attack croatian axemen that you could send against the enemy flanks in swarms. I think there is more variety as you go along. At the start of a campaign its all militia untis but as the campaign progresses factions get more varied. The Spanish factions get great skirmishers and Sword and Buckler men. The Scandinavian factions are very dependent on attacking the enemy since very few of their untis use spears. Novgorod is interesting to play because of their heavy cavalry and horse archers, they also have a lot of infantry that carry a bow or javelins in addition to their melee attack. I'm basing this off the Stainless Steel mod, but since it is the vanilla campaign just better I don't see why anybody would play vanilla Med2.

The only unit I enjoyed with Hungary were the battlefield assassins. The Hungarian Nobles, being medium-cavalry, horse archers had huge potential but they screwed it up by making them very hard to control (you had to watch them constantly to ensure they wouldn't run into enemy ranks, and they often disobeyed direct commands resulting in their slaughter). I think Hungary also had some nice heavy cav. but it's nothing special since basically every faction has got it. I however, primarily favor infantry in battle and Hungary really had some exceptionally weak infantry. :nope:
I did like their campaign most however, very challenging. I'm being unfair to Medieval here (forget if it was 1 or 2), overall it was a very enjoyable game and is my fourth favorite (after Shogun 2, Napoleon and Rome).
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:04 am

I'm trying Stainless Steel for the first time now and am having a blast playing Denmark. I'm conquering Sweden now and preparing to fight Norway, while trying to get trade agreements with everyone on the Baltic and North Sea coasts. Managing the economy seems way too easy tough. My campaign has barely started and I am already drowning in money with literally nothing to spend it on (construction and recruitment queues are full).
Well you can always spend your money on mercenaries and have them into your armies before you conquer the world. :wink:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:31 pm

Well you can always spend your money on mercenaries and have them into your armies before you conquer the world. :wink:
No mercenaries available in Sweden either. :(
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:30 am

No mercenaries available in Sweden either. :(
There isn't any mercenaries available in Sweden. :blink: Perhaps you're trying to hire mercenaries to soon, because you must wait a few turns until they will be available for you to hire them. :smile:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:27 pm

There isn't any mercenaries available in Sweden. :blink: Perhaps you're trying to hire mercenaries to soon, because you must wait a few turns until they will be available for you to hire them. :smile:
That must have been it, because I hired my first units of mercenary Vikings and spearmen about half an hour ago. :smile:

(still have a ridiculously high amount of money though)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:39 am

That must have been it, because I hired my first units of mercenary Vikings and spearmen about half an hour ago. :smile:

(still have a ridiculously high amount of money though)
You have problems with to much money and don't know what do to with them, because from my own experience money is the first thing you'll have real problems with before you have built up your trading capacity (better roads and buildings).
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:40 am

You have problems with to much money and don't know what do to with them, because from my own experience money is the first thing you'll have real problems with before you have built up your trading capacity (better roads and buildings).
I guess it's because I'm used to Europa Barbarorum, managing your economy can be pretty hardcoe there for some factions. I remember a campaign with the Sweboz where I spent the first 30 turns or so in debt. :P
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:48 pm

I remember from my last Empire playthrough where I was Britain how a Spanish and a French fleet blocked the Channel where my biggest fleet lay at both ends. I wasn't at war with either of them. Still I think that's pretty impressive.

I've seen Shogun 2 playthroughs and while I must admit that while it looks very interesting, I have this impression that whole units can die in mere seconds.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:03 am

I remember from my last Empire playthrough where I was Britain how a Spanish and a French fleet blocked the Channel where my biggest fleet lay at both ends. I wasn't at war with either of them. Still I think that's pretty impressive.

I've seen Shogun 2 playthroughs and while I must admit that it looks very interesting, I have this impression that whole units can die in mere seconds.

I think Shogun 2 as a whole is more fast paced than the other Total Wars (Campaign map included, it is quite hard to have the economy to fund a turtling stratrgey).
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:40 pm

I think Shogun 2 as a whole is more fast paced than the other Total Wars (Campaign map included, it is quite hard to have the economy to fund a turtling stratrgey).
I remember that what I saw on Youtube was all about "attack, attack, attack" indeed. As long as it's feasible to have enough Ashigaru (if I'm correct these are the cheap fellows) for garrison duty. Or perhaps that doesn't matter anymore. Then it's at least fair. I recall how I had to stop my expansions in Empire until the resistance penalties went down.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:38 am

I remember that what I saw on Youtube was all about "attack, attack, attack" indeed. As long as it's feasible to have enough Ashigaru (if I'm correct these are the cheap fellows) for garrison duty. Or perhaps that doesn't matter anymore. Then it's at least fair. I recall how I had to stop my expansions in Empire until the resistance penalties went down.

I haven't played it in ages, so I don't remember much but yes the Ashigaru are the cheap guys, but I used them a lot in the open battles and conquering, Samurai units are quite expensive to maintain in force. Put simply it is hard to maintain a clan with a lot of cities as defending them is quite expensive.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:46 am

I haven't played it in ages, so I don't remember much but yes the Ashigaru are the cheap guys, but I used them a lot in the open battles and conquering, Samurai units are quite expensive to maintain in force. Put simply it is hard to maintain a clan with a lot of cities as defending them is quite expensive.

The game is harder and harder as you get stronger and stronger and I love this. On the whole, I greatly prefer samurai and specialized units and I had battles where I took out masses of ashigaru using only a few units of kisho ninja (albeit it was a heavily-wooded area). I have always been a quality-over-quantity guy and I prefer a few troops that I can command very well (without having to divide my attention on a vast army) than sending troops to the slaughter in waves. When I get really, really powerful and rich, I use several ashigaru armies and auto-resolve the battles and have an elite army of samurai, ninja and matchlocks which I use to dominate in battle. :biggrin:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:06 pm

I haven't played it in ages, so I don't remember much but yes the Ashigaru are the cheap guys, but I used them a lot in the open battles and conquering, Samurai units are quite expensive to maintain in force. Put simply it is hard to maintain a clan with a lot of cities as defending them is quite expensive.
Would you remember if the honour system is still a bit wonky? I recall people complaining that their honour decreased because of things their opponents did.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:48 pm

Would you remember if the honour system is still a bit wonky? I recall people complaining that their honour decreased because of things their opponents did.

I didn't really pay attention to the honour system to be honest.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:57 pm

A few days ago I had a conversion with one member on GHF and when I was looking for some reference on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ I ran into http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romersk_legion#Bef.C3.A4lsstruktur. Please note that the article are not available in English only in Swedish AFAIK but it's the picture that's interesting.

The top picture shows the republic army before Marius reforms and below you can see what has happen with the Roman army after Marius reforms.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:46 pm

A few days ago I had a conversion with one member on GHF and when I was looking for some reference on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ I ran into http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romersk_legion#Bef.C3.A4lsstruktur. Please note that the article are not available in English only in Swedish AFAIK but it's the picture that's interesting.

The top picture shows the republic army before Marius reforms and below you can see what has happen with the Roman army after Marius reforms.

Damn I've forgotten all my Roman military terminology. :biggrin: Though it seems like the reformed army relies more on it's heavy Roman troops with support from auxilia as well as having no cavalry. Seems like a much more robust army.
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