I was just talking to a dunmer in Windhelm and he told me that Ulfric hates non-Nords and keeps them in the Gray Quarter, which is the section of the city which dunmer are forced to live.

What the hell, Ulfric? I joined your cause, and I'm not even your race.

What, you're going to believe what a Dunmer tells you?

Ulfric is a self-absorbed, racist jerk.
The Empire are spineless cowards trying to save their own ass.

Both sides svck. Just pick the one you think has cooler people.

This ^ but yeah you're right Ulfric is a racist POS!

*shrug* At the end of the day we may never know since we have dunmer joining the imperials and we have loads of dunmer saying that he is/ or he does not care for the dunmer at all. I think the stormcloaks may have a share of racists in their ranks but what causes people to think ulfric is racist is the fact he does nothing about the people who are racist/prejudice against the dunmer. Or do anything to help improve their situation hence why people say ulfric is racist. Plus brunwulf does not strike me as a liar.

I am a imperial supporter btw.

I'm going to come back tonight and this topic is going to be about 8 pages.

Racism between the fictional races has been a staple of TES for years. In Morrowind there were slavers. Skyrim's racism is tame by comparison. I've got no issue with Ulfric. He seems better than the Imperials based on the opening scene where they are going to cut your head off for no god reason and then you get to see the inside of their torture room.

There is no black and white in TES. Just varying shades of gray.

Nobody minds the Altmers and Imperials who live in the city. They don't mind anyone who proves they mean no trouble.

Yup

Actually... it's hard to say what Ulfric is since we only hear rumor and conjecture. Unless one of you actually has something specific that Ulfric had said.

Let's be reasonable... if Ulfric is racist against Dark Elves... why would he allow them their own quarter in Windhelm in the first place? The Khajiit wandering merchants aren't allowed in any of the cities, so you can't say that he's not "allowed" to bar Dunmer from his own city. Heck, if he is trying to save face, then he'd make a special "Dark Elf" tax that's so high, Dunmer would be forced to leave or face extreme poverty.

Yup. The same things are going to be repeated again and people are just going to argue like all civil war related threads.

ha well said

I don't like ulfric but I support the rebels and true sons of skyrim...what right does the empire have to police nords in their own homeland? That would be like the UN taking over a country and rewriting their laws

Sorry, don't care if he's a racist or not...it wasn't him who tried to chop my head off...wasn't even on the damn list, the imperials were just to lazy to figure something else out.
And like others have mentioned: It was a dunmer who said he was a racist towards dunmers...so far i haven't heard him utter anything racist at all.

Although his biggest personality flaw would be how tremendously boring he is.

I just think if he allows dunmers in, they should get to live anywhere in the city. But, then again, maybe Ulfric ISN'T racist and he's just trying to keep Windhelm's racist nords from uprising over the dunmer being able to walk about the city.

But I do support the Stormcloaks. Partly because I find his voice the manliest voice ever.

Outlanders turned out to be trouble. Skyrim is in chaos. It's kinda logical to expect that true High King would be kinda reserved and suspitious towards some of them. You may call it racist, but I think it's better to be racist in his case, than get yet another problem on Skyrim's shoulders.

I am playing the Civil Quest as a Nord who was raised in Cyrodil and is not much racist (well, elves are all liars, but lizards and cats are OK folk, and the dark and pointy eared humans are weird but decent). She has joined the Stormcloaks because she really believes the Empire has grown corrupt by banning the cult of Talos.
Funny thing, as my character is getting to know Ulfric, she thinks they are pretty similar. Ulfric is a wise man, who thinks before acting, and therefore must be free of stupid prejudice. But he is also realist, and knows that there is a deep racism among his staunchest power base, Nord tradicionalists, and challenging that attitude is not a priority in war time.
On the other hand, a previous character, a Dunmer who resided in the Grey Quarters, deeply hated both Ulfric and his Stormcloaks and the Imperials for their disgusting racism, but an Imperial soldier admired Ulfric but just thought he was mistaken by rebelling, despite his cause being just. So it all depends of the point of view.
Because of this moral ambiguity and the numerous background dialogue regarding this issue, I am finding the Civil War questline the most compelling one in Skyrim so far, much more interesting for a fighing character than the companions.

Oh come on their country blew up what reason do they have to cause problems?

Plus being racist is not better.

Spoken like a true Dunmer

Racism is bad. No "ands,""ifs","ors""buts" about it. Its bad. Period.

I'm sure that old Nordic head can find plenty of reasons After all we are talking about Nords who just need an excuse to fight.

I kinda think war and bloodshed is bit worse than being cautious and racist towards the Elves, so I understand Ulfric's point of view.

I swear nobody actually bothers to get real evidence when making these topics.

I agree as a person. But I find interesting that the issue is raised in a fantasy RPG because in a way it forces us to see the situation from different point of views.

The Decree of Monument says that the Dunmer don't have to pay any taxes or swear fealty to the jarls. If Ulfric was as racist as people claim, why would he keep a bunch of freeloaders in his city since the dunmer are freeloaders seeing as they don't pay taxes or swear loyalty. Plus Ulfric doesn't say anything racist about you regardless of race. He said that my Argonian was like kin to him.