Under the Bus?

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 pm

From the Myriad of threads concerning either the low quality of the graphics (or occasionally the sound), the bad UI, the lack of key binding options and the numerous error/bugs I can only come to one conclusion.

Bethesda does not care about their PC customers, but I'm sure they enjoy our extra money in their pockets. The irony? I had to go to 5 retailers before I found a copy of this game for PC; and I got the last copy. I may have gotten the last PC retail copy in town. EVERY retailer I went to still had it in stock for Xbox & PS. This tells me that either Bethesda, or the retailers under estimated the PC market for this product and perhaps over estimated it for console. I have no idea how much of the market for Bethesda is PC, but pissing that market off is the best way to get it closer to 0%

Obviously this game was made for console with PC as an after thought and along with that comes many disappointments. Being designed for console I can understand the graphics not being up to par with what a PC can handle these days. Although couldn't Bethesda at least tweak the programming to utilize PC hardware properly? Is that too much to ask? What about the UI? Does it really take that much time and effort to restructure it for PC? If so how about just getting what you've already got to work well, better, or at all for PC? Every game for PC should allow key binding for every action to the key pad and mouse; period. This is PC Games Class 100 material. I'm a lefty and have a large drawer full of games from the past decade and when moving a character on a screen is involved I can key bind the movements and actions to the numeric keypad for ALL of those games. The bugs people are reporting are too numerous to list, but many fit in the categories above.

I can handle not being able to play a title because it is not released for PC, but when I spend $60.00 for a product that state's it is for PC I expect some consideration for the format and hardware that it claims it's for. Releasing half baked titles for PC will only encourage more piracy because your product simply wont be worth the money. If the PC market is shrinking there shouldn't be any wonder as to why; you are creating a self fulfilling prophecy. I have a pretty high end system and the opening scene seemed to be working for me, but I never got past my inability to key bind to the numeric key pad. If I had known I could not do this I never would have bought the product to begin with. This is so basic and EVERY other game I have like this allows me to do so. I never even considered it to be a possibility that there could be such a simple over sight. It's so simple an over sight on such a basic feature that I can only conclude that the PC version of this game was only given a dime's worth of attention.

This is my first Bethesda purchase and unless patches are coming soon to address these issue's it is likely to be my last. If you are only going to make games for console then stick with console. Advertising it as a "Games for Windows" in this state is terrible.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:41 am

I don't know if you thought about this, but people who are loving the game are not going to be on the forums complaining about it, they're going to be playing the game.
Oh and this part of the forums is for people who are seeking technical help, not for complaining about the game, you can go to the general forums for that.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:51 am

I don't know if you thought about this, but people who are loving the game are not going to be on the forums complaining about it, they're going to be playing the game.

I realize this. I have a whole drawer full of games that I've enjoyed. I bought this one to enjoy. There own advertising proclaims I can play the game my way due to the sand box approach for the game. I'd like to play it my way by key binding it the way I have every other game in my drawer. This is the only game I own that I can't play my way. It may be for me that I will have no other problems or few, but for a game to have this level of problem on such a basic feature is beyond comprehension. I may break down and try some program that some other's have posted to fix what should already be working.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:41 pm

:violin:
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:30 pm

I love how people bash him. There are tons of thread where people post concerns and opinions in a much less classier way. He gave valid points and reasoning behind everything..and while I am enjoying this game and probably will continue to do so, I can't help but agree. As PC gamer I feel left out.

The Witcher 2 made my jaw drop, and say, Whoa, this is what it's about.
Granted TW2 is a bit different of a game..but still..I expected my jaw to be dropping in Skyrim..and while it is in SOME instances..others it just sees the lack of PC consideration.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:45 am

I actually love the game too much to play it in its current ugly incarnation. Too many shadow glitches and shoddy textures are making the game look like a s s. And not talkin the sixy supermodel a s s. I'm sayin nasty hairy plumber's crack with crusty TP clingons. I expect more from bethesda, and I'm crossing my fingers that they will deliver before xmas so I can have a happy new year.

I don't know if you thought about this, but people who are loving the game are not going to be on the forums complaining about it, they're going to be playing the game.
Oh and this part of the forums is for people who are seeking technical help, not for complaining about the game, you can go to the general forums for that.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:23 am

He makes some good points and has the right to post this thread. If you don't like it read someplace else. Being able to post one's frustrations helps to reduce them.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:56 pm

I don't know if you thought about this, but people who are loving the game are not going to be on the forums complaining about it, they're going to be playing the game.
Oh and this part of the forums is for people who are seeking technical help, not for complaining about the game, you can go to the general forums for that.

No kidding. Talk about a selection bias; 'OMFG Everybody (on the PC tech support board) is having tech issues with the PC copy' /pitchforks.

The game runs beautifully for me 90% of the time, I just get some weird transparency issues under certain conditions and I think something I just read fixes that.

But the amount of QQing and entitlement from (what I hope are) the younger elements of the PC playerbase is really tiresome.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:46 am

I can handle not being able to play a title because it is not released for PC, but when I spend $60.00 for a product that state's it is for PC I expect some consideration for the format and hardware that it claims it's for.
This. I would rather they just shunned us completely and made us buy it for the 360 if we wanted to own it than to sell us what they sold us.

I actually love the game too much to play it in its current ugly incarnation.
And this. I didn't get on board with Oblivion right away because I couldn't at the time. By the time I did, there were a plethora of fixes and patches and unofficial updates and mods. So I don't know how similar this is to Oblivion's launch, but I know I encountered nothing even remotely close to Skyrim's issues in that game, and it definitely did not feel like a console game. This one smacks of console everywhere I look.

To the OP: Don't fret hobosrcool's comments. Most of his comments are just troll attempts. Rarely has anything pleasant to say.

And to hobosrcool and Yardwasted: If you have nothing to contribute, then don't. Move along. Nobody made you read the thread or respond to it. If you disagree with it, or think it's a bunch of baloney, then just... move along. Oh, and watch "Bambi" again. There's some good advice in there for people that have nothing nice to say.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:20 pm

I have never had a console and don't plan to ever have a console. But, I have to live in the world as it is, not the world and I would like it to be. So what if Skyrim is designed to accommodate Xbox, PS3 and PC. So what if platform optimization needs to be tweaked a bit yet. The game runs pretty good out of the box on my 4 year old rig. I am running on High graphics with 30 FPS and very few issues. My main gripe is UI problem with the keymap issue. For such a complex game it runs very well (remember DaggerFall) with few problems which I expect will mostly get patched in short order.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:06 pm

Hopefully there'll be a patch optimizing it.
I got poor performance, even when I should be able to run at high/ultra.

Fixing CPU problems and a patch for DX11 I'd appreciate.
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