1.8 UpdateDragonborn DLC discussion thread #48

Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:01 am

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Released for xBox 360 on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points. No announcement has been made for PC or PS3 versions, nor has there been any mention of exclusivity either way.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Take what you will from that....

Teaser picture http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/681455957.jpeg.
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s.

Observations
Video contains information about some ex-Dragon-Priest-come-hipster-Dragonborn who ruled over Solstheim and liked to eat dragons. He makes a return in Dragonborn.

Links to interesting parts of the video and their respective stills.
Spoiler
Partial boatride 0m04s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=4s) (http://i.imgur.com/3Hihm.jpg)
Overview of Solstheim 0m23s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=23s) (http://i.imgur.com/jpKVN.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m25s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=25s) (http://i.imgur.com/vWbdc.jpg)
Netch 0m27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=27s) (http://i.imgur.com/jJKdz.jpg)
Dunmer village 0m28s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=28s) (http://i.imgur.com/TGLpk.jpg)
Miraak temple 0m38s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=38s) (http://i.imgur.com/2uPWc.jpg)
Standing stone 0m39s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=39s) (http://i.imgur.com/l52BX.jpg)
Tentacles from book grabbing Dragonborn, presumably taking them into Hermaeus Mora's realm 0m40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=40s) (http://i.imgur.com/ykgJE.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m47s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=47s) (http://i.imgur.com/lgnUK.jpg)
Dragon riding 0m50s and 1m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=70s) (http://i.imgur.com/7RMDt.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/QSuI2.jpg)
Bonemold Armor 0m50s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s) (http://i.imgur.com/yjU6P.jpg)
Scourge (axe) 0m56s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=56s) (http://i.imgur.com/Z9DlP.jpg)
1H spears (NPC) 0m59s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=59s) (http://i.imgur.com/3UxYb.jpg)
Gravedigger (sword) 1m03s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=63s) (http://i.imgur.com/DKRcu.jpg)
2H spears (NPC) 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Stalhrim armor 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Rieklings and rieklings on boars 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
(give me more links and I'll put them here, append #t=XXmYYs to the video URL for timecode)

Albums containing the same + more stills.
http://imgur.com/a/8ezW3
http://imgur.com/a/l4yL2 (Can you identify some of these?)

Every frame from the trailer http://www.mediafire.com/?ymyt9gap5k2w1xi


Speculation
Boat Arrival into what is likely where Raven Rock was.
Antagonist is a former Dragon Priest, as well as the first Dragonborn and had dominion over Solstheim
Redoran Architecture present in walled city.
Giant Mushroom foilage. Terraformed Solstheim or Nothern coast of Morrowind?
Several new Daedra - One of which looks eerily like the Sixth House priests in service to Dagoth Ur

Info found in 1.8 CK update
Player dragon mounts are in.
2 new Achievements out of, at least, 10 are Solstheim Explorer, of which you need to discover 30 locations, and Stalhrim Crafter

Info found in 1.8 Updates
The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name of HMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

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Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :)
Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420627-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-30/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420666-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-31/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420699-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-32/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420797-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-33/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420887-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-34/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420987-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-35/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421043-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-36/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421094-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-37/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421130-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-38/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421151-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-39/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421157-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-40/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421165-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-41/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421172-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-42/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421221-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-44/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421272-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-45/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421326-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-46/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421437-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-47/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361, and http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21654653 for dragon riding. Also, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/page__view__findpost__p__21749310 for the CK Update.

Also you can look through (my) Mardoxx' previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

For official announcements, check http://www.bethblog.com/category/skyrim and the official forums here.

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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:06 pm

So, according to the lore the city of Bromjunaar was abandoned and Shalidor built the Labyrinth deep inside of the ruins but before all of that Bromjunaar was the Capital of Skyrim during the time where Dragon Cults ruled. It seems that they had a system not unlike an army where they had different ranking Priests, the 8 we fight were the highest ranking ones.

So maybe this one in the new trailer, while being a former Dragon Priest was not the highest Priest... wanted power and wasn't given it so he left the Dragon Cult and sided with Herm Mora so he could obtain more knowledge and power from his realm. He also crafted his own mask and made his own Cult. (This part is speculation on by me.)
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:01 pm

So, according to the lore the city of Bromjunaar was abandoned and Shalidor built the Labyrinth deep inside of the ruins but before all of that Bromjunaar was the Capital of Skyrim during the time where Dragon Cults ruled. It seems that they had a system not unlike an army where they had different ranking Priests, the 8 we fight were the highest ranking ones.

So maybe this one in the new trailer, while being a former Dragon Priest was not the highest Priest... wanted power and wasn't given it so he left the Dragon Cult and sided with Herm Mora so he could obtain more knowledge and power from his realm. He also crafted his own mask and made his own Cult. (This part is speculation on by me.)

So did Mora turn him into a Dragonborn, or did the Priesthood throw him out because of it? That's the million dollar question.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:00 am

I will just throw in a thought for fun:
We have seen the giant mudcrab in the Gamejam.
Now we have an island full of Dunmer.

How about... a living, breathing Emperor Crab? :devil:
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:56 pm

So dragons are not controllable. It's more of an interactive experience where the dragon rides around randomly and when you want it to land you click a button?
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:39 pm

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Sadly, on 360, presumably, as a 30 exclusive 360, on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Take what you will from that....

I am really starting to hate Microsoft, next we'll be finding out that they're buying Bethesda out and creating the rest of the Skyrim content for XBOX 360 only.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:18 am

So did Mora turn him into a Dragonborn, or did the Priesthood throw him out because of it? That's the million dollar question.

Very good question. Well Akatosh gives his blood to someone in order to make them Dragonborn so it is likely he was always a Dragonborn. Of course the term Dragonborn hadn't been come up with so I assume Dragons just said he had "Dovah Sos". Maybe the other Priests were scared of him? Which is why he didn't become the 9th High Dragon Priest and remained at whatever rank he had.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:01 pm

Hm..

Who here will get a pet scrib, if they make a return?
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:19 pm

Very good question. Well Akatosh gives his blood to someone in order to make them Dragonborn so it is likely he was always a Dragonborn. Of course the term Dragonborn hadn't been come up with so I assume Dragons just said he had "Dovah Sos". Maybe the other Priests were scared of him? Which is why he didn't become the 9th High Dragon Priest and remained at whatever rank he had.

Konahrik was the leader of the high dragon priests.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:47 pm

Konahrik was the leader of the high dragon priests.

Yeah, not much is explained on Konahrik and why just the mask is left behind. So basically my speculation is this dragonborn in the trailer wanted to be a member of the high dragon priest and they denied him that "honor" so he rebelled...
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:15 pm

I am really starting to hate Microsoft, next we'll be finding out that they're buying Bethesda out and creating the rest of the Skyrim content for XBOX 360 only.
I just realised a really stupid typo in my post hahaha

But really, Zenimax is a company. MS offers $XXXXXXX for more exclusivity. Wat do? Turn it down?!
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:00 pm

Who here will get a pet scrib, if they make a return?

Totally. Scribs were in the files, I think. I hope we can adopt one. :smile:
But I would also settle with an Emperor Crab. :tongue:

I just realised a really stupid typo in my post hahaha

But really, Zenimax is a company. MS offers $XXXXXXX for more exclusivity. Wat do? Turn it down?!

If I would miss the christmas sales on PC for it?
Maybe I would turn it down, yeah.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:10 pm

Lore question: Did the Dwemer disappear before, or after the Dragon Priests were around?
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:17 pm

Lore question: Did the Dwemer disappear before, or after the Dragon Priests were around?

After, I think. The Dwemer disappeared in the First Era, but the Dragon Priests were around far before that.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:26 pm

Lore question: Did the Dwemer disappear before, or after the Dragon Priests were around?

After.
The Dwemer disappeared at the battle of Red Mountain.

PS: Damned Ninjas. :ahhh:
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:10 pm

Lore question: Did the Dwemer disappear before, or after the Dragon Priests were around?

After
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Lore question: Did the Dwemer disappear before, or after the Dragon Priests were around?

after. Last priest cult was taken out in 1E 139 and the Dwemer disappeared around 1E 700
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:28 pm

Release date confirmed for Xbox 360 but not for PC? The heck? This better come out before Xmas for PC users too Bethesda! :swear:
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:25 pm

I will just throw in a thought for fun:
We have seen the giant mudcrab in the Gamejam.
Now we have an island full of Dunmer.

How about... a living, breathing Emperor Crab? :devil:

I'm hoping they throw that in somewhere, either on Solstheim or somewhere along the beaches on the Sea of Ghosts. Be damned if Emperor Crabs are supposed to be extinct, I want to fight that thing. :devil:
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:53 pm

I'm hoping they throw that in somewhere, either on Solstheim or somewhere along the beaches on the Sea of Ghosts. Be damned if Emperor Crabs are supposed to be extinct, I want to fight that thing. :devil:
This. I'm gonna make a poll before the damned Wood Elf beats me too it.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:03 pm

If I would miss the christmas sales on PC for it?
Maybe I would turn it down, yeah.
That is a very good point!
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:12 am

Could this dragon priest possibly be Dwemer then? Just speculating on his race.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Could this dragon priest possibly be Dwemer then? Just speculating on his race.

Nah. It'd more likely be a Falmer.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:04 am

Could this dragon priest possibly be Dwemer then? Just speculating on his race.

He could be. But he could also be a Dreugh or a sentient Scrib.
It's veeery unlikely for many, many reasons.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:50 pm

I am really starting to hate Microsoft, next we'll be finding out that they're buying Bethesda out and creating the rest of the Skyrim content for XBOX 360 only.

Yeah while I have been a huge fan of TES and Bethesda since buying Arena in 94, this is one thing that is sticking in my throat! I hope Bethesda is making lots of $'s with this exclusivity alliance with Micro$oft and the 360 because they are making ALOT of people angry, dissapointed and resentful over it! I originally bought the PS3 version of Skyrim so I could play it in 52 inchs and surround sound, then realised that all the DLC content was coming very late if at all, for the PS3 version. So I went out and bought the PC version of Skyrim off Steam and bought a new gaming laptop (2.2k later) just so I can play Skyrim and get the DLC at a reasonable rate, then I found the world of mods again like with Oblivion which are amazing! I am not sure how long this 'Deal' is going for but I am sicking of waiting just because I didn't get the other Console! Reputation for $'s, it might make business sense for their bottom line, but at what expense?

Saying all that I am excited for when this eventually arrives for the PC now, I have been waiting for DLC content such as this, or possibly even an Expansion ala like they did with Morrowind.
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