Vertibirds : Fallout Series Discussion

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:38 am

Were there any The Enclave didnt have? Or did the Enclave take them all?

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:39 am

Who did they take them from?

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:14 pm

Who did they take them from?

I dunno. BLind Kid Hospitals?
Jk. I know that was mean

But Did they build them you think?

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:10 pm

Before the War the vertibirds were in the prototype stage. The project wasn't finalized until after the War by the Enclave.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:26 pm

So they were built?
And If they were would that mean taht the Enclave would have the Blueprints floating aroundin one of there outposts?

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:31 pm

And If they were would that mean taht the Enclave would have the Blueprints floating aroundin one of there outposts?

You haven't played Fallout 2, have you?

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:04 am

^^^^^^^^

I was going to get the 3 pack of Brotherhood of Steel, Fallout 1, and Fallout 2, but Im using a Windows 98 while my computers getting fixed. Wasnt sure if it would work.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:32 pm

This is one of the main quests in Fallout 2:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Get_the_vertibird_plans_for_the_Brotherhood_of_Steel

I was going to get the 3 pack of Brotherhood of Steel, Fallout 1, and Fallout 2, but Im using a Windows 98 while my computers getting fixed. Wasnt sure if it would work.

They will work. Remember that Fallout was released in 1997, and Fallout 2 in 1998.

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:58 am

Hm..... You think they would have an extra copy....

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:25 pm

It's mentioned in Fallout 2 that they had 4 but three were lost and you steal the fourth. :tops:

EDIT: I just noticed that one of the above posts has a link to the quest I was talking about.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:58 pm

I'm amazed that you could never give/sell or get the vertibird plans for either the NCR or Vault City.

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:19 am

I hope those plans came with a 'How to fly a helicopter for a dumb wastelander' manual.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:33 pm

I hope those plans came with a 'How to fly a helicopter for a dumb wastelander' manual.

"Hmm... I wonder what 'Self-Destruct' taste like. Fred?"

"Explosive flavor, im sure"

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:44 pm

It would be neat to see Vertibirds in the hands of the BoS in New Vegas... they already have the models done.

Without Colonel Autumn's accent saying "vertibird" though, it just wouldn't be the same.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:35 pm

It would be neat to see Vertibirds in the hands of the BoS in New Vegas... they already have the models done.

Without Colonel Autumn's accent saying "vertibird" though, it just wouldn't be the same.

It would be cool. But in Fallout 2 Matt mentions that the BoS is running out of manpower. And they definitely need a southern guy to say vertibird.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:49 pm

It would be cool. But in Fallout 2 Matt mentions that the BoS is running out of manpower.

If the BoS are in New Vegas, hopefully their story is their loss of power and division... and it would be neat to see one faction of the BoS with vertibirds, and the others wonder how they obtained such technology.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:52 pm

Wait, if they weren't finalized until the Enclave, then how come in Operation Anchorage they have working vertiberds?

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:26 pm

Wait, if they weren't finalized until the Enclave, then how come in Operation Anchorage they have working vertiberds?

Retroactive continuity. Bethesda changed it, possibly without even thinking about it. Assuming the Vertibird part of the sim is one of the accurate portions.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:56 pm

I did do a post somewhere speculating on Aircraft in the Fallout Universe... Who has them, what air technology is possible in a post apocolyptic environment easy (and this was built on by several other posters), but I'd be suprised if major powers such as the NCR didnt have some elementary aircraft (even if they are experimental one-offs or even a simple hot air baloon), but nothing in any major number or major strategic use.

Wait, if they weren't finalized until the Enclave, then how come in Operation Anchorage they have working vertiberds?

Operation Anchorage is not a historicalically accurate recreation of the events in Alaska.

Development

Entries found in a terminal in the Outcast Outpost detail the development of the simulation. The entry dated August 15, 2077 describes how General Constantine Chase tested the simulation himself, but claimed it didn't "feel right," and that hardware problems were prevalent. The second entry dated September 6, 2077 tells of how Chase was making elaborate changes to the simulation which the writer of the entry felt were "divorced from reality," and that he was sure that the real Anchorage Reclamation had never happened the way Chase portrayed it. The writer goes on to say that everyone was beginning to think Chase was going insane, but no one confronted him because they feared that the military would take over the project. At the very end, the writer questions why running the simulation was necessary anymore, since "any tactical data was mined months ago".

In particular, the VB-02 Vertibirds were present in the simulation in full operational capacity when in fact they wouldn't even reach prototype stage until much later. There is also doubt over the plausibility of Chimeras as shown in the simulation, since any other source material on the Reclamation makes no mention of it.

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:24 pm

Wait, if they weren't finalized until the Enclave, then how come in Operation Anchorage they have working vertiberds?

Their is a computer log of the staff of the company that ran the O:A simulation, complaing about inaccuracy implemented by the general chase (i think that was his name)

» Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:54 pm

Yeah, prototypes were in development at the time the bombs fell... it would make sense that General Chase thought they were cool and forced them into the sim program.

I'm pretty sure that's us fixing Bethesda's mistakes though, I doubt that computer log was really in reference to that.

» Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:13 am

Bethesda may have known that they somehow made a mistake somewhere with O:A (it was their first DLC, after all) and may have included that second log as a sort of catch-all to ensure there were no long-term ramifications of their mistakes.