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Where do you go when you die?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:54 pm
by Peter P Canning
The Dark Brotherhood is full of it.


I'm not so sure about that, the makers of the game and the DB questline just didn't fleash out the idea very well. With all that goes on in TES I could envision an entity like Sithis devouring the souls of the murdered.

And the Necromancers do die when/if they ultimately become Liches. But instead of their souls departing into the Dreamsleave, it gets traqed into their body. Gotta make you wonder who would desire that kind of existance though.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:43 pm
by Elizabeth Falvey
I'm not so sure about that, the makers of the game and the DB questline just didn't fleash out the idea very well. With all that goes on in TES I could envision an entity like Sithis devouring the souls of the murdered.

And the Necromancers do die when/if they ultimately become Liches. But instead of their souls departing into the Dreamsleave, it gets traqed into their body. Gotta make you wonder who would desire that kind of existance though.


The DB is full of it because Sithis is a concept that symbolizes change. It basically is change. So in reality, Sithis devours us all, as does Auniel. Sithis really has nothing to do with murder though, and I don't see how change would care specifically on murder.

I'm sure tons of people would desire the Lich existance. People who would rather live forever than live for real. There are a lot of these type of people.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:45 pm
by c.o.s.m.o
I'm not so sure about that, the makers of the game and the DB questline just didn't fleash out the idea very well. With all that goes on in TES I could envision an entity like Sithis devouring the souls of the murdered.


Unfortuantly it's bull. The Dark Brotherhood is an offshoot from the Morag Tong, which with aid of Mephala created a philosophy based on a merger of the Altmer concept of Sithis, limitation, mortality and the Daedric principle of action. As a result, they see murder as the highest act because they actively cause death.
The Dark Brotherhood became isolated from it's original philosophy when the Morag Tong was outlawed and the philosophy of Sithis degenerated from the Aldmer concept into a god of it's own.

As such there never was a god Sithis. This is also most apperent in the varriety of descriptions that the Dark Brotherhood members give of Sithis and it shows that Sithis has never shown himself.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:23 pm
by Amanda Leis
As I said before, there is no one particular place that they go when they die. There's different places.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:59 am
by Alexandra walker
As I said before, there is no one particular place that they go when they die. There's different places.

Or is it one place? Is it just a matter of how people percept that "place", based on how they expect it to be? :P

Proweler, wasn't it you who posted that theory some time ago? Or was it Brian? I don't remember.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:38 pm
by Mr. Ray
Proweler, wasn't it you who posted that theory some time ago? Or was it Brian? I don't remember.


http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=714862&st=0&p=10316539&#entry10316539

It's there.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:23 am
by Gaelle Courant
But even some of the most ancient spirits will sometimes show up on Mundus, remarkably sane and coherent. It seems that if there is reincarnation, it is purely optional.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:19 pm
by Logan Greenwood
So why do the Oblivion DB worship Sithis?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:49 pm
by Jerry Cox
So why do the Oblivion DB worship Sithis?

They are head-in-ass.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:15 pm
by louise tagg
So why do the Oblivion DB worship Sithis?

It's kinda like an really extreme form of Nihilism but with more killing and less leather.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:24 am
by Sebrina Johnstone
It's kinda like a really extreme form of Nihilism but with more killing and less leather.

What does nihilism have to do with leather? Just because one finds life pointless does not mean they dig bondage.

But I guess it helps. :shrug:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:58 am
by Petr Jordy Zugar
But nihilists don't always find life pointless.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:42 am
by Fluffer
What does nihilism have to do with leather? Just because one finds life pointless does not mean they dig bondage.

But I guess it helps. :shrug:

"We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:37 am
by Motionsharp
"We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing."

"Are those the nazis Walter?"

"Don't worry Donny, they're not nazis they're nihilists."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:50 am
by Pawel Platek
"No, we are Nihilists, we don't believes in anythings."
"Can't a Nihilist also not believe in God, too?"
"That, uhh, I don'ts know."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:42 am
by Danielle Brown
"Uhhh we's as nihilists don't belive in intellegence meither"

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:57 am
by CHARLODDE
I don't get it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:02 am
by Marquis deVille
I don't get it.

It's from a comedic movie known as The Big Lebowski.
It has some leather-clad german nihilists in it as well as people saying and doing funny things.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:37 am
by Emily Jeffs
Yeah, I'm familiar with the film. ;)

After all, the dude abides.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:28 pm
by Evaa
I'm not but I started to think about Cthulu for some reason.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:38 am
by Trevi
It's from a comedic movie known as The Big Lebowski.
It has some leather-clad german nihilists in it as well as people saying and doing funny things.

I get that. But some of the quotes didn't really make sense in the context of the film or Nihilism...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:11 am
by Andrew Tarango
After all, the dude abides.

But does he albide, as well?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:49 pm
by x_JeNnY_x
I'm not but I started to think about Cthulu for some reason.


Messenger of fear in site
Dark deception kills the light

Hybrid children watch the sea
Pray for father roaming free

Fearless wretch
insanity
he watches lurking beneath the sea
great old one
forbidden site
immortal
in madness you dwell

I love that song...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:39 am
by Tasha Clifford
So basically, most people get reincarnated and don't remember their past life, some peoples souls get svcked into soul gems (If thats how they died), some people become undead, and some people go to their patron dieties realm...

Am I wrong?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:42 am
by Brian LeHury
So basically, most people get reincarnated and don't remember their past life, some peoples souls get svcked into soul gems (If thats how they died), some people become undead, and some people go to their patron dieties realm...

Am I wrong?

Pretty much.