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In game, you couldn't see Kvatch from any other city (maybe Anvil).
But think about the engines at the time, the scales had to be smaller, remember, Oblivion was developed 2003-04-05, and the engine would of been weaker. Just Cause 2 would of been 2007-08-09 (I presume), so the engine would of been far better than Oblivions.

You are forgetting that the Just Cause 2 world space is mostly a big empty. It lacks the detail that Oblivion and Morrowind had and I would prefer to take the detail over a "big empty."

To add to this, player perspective has a huge role to do with map scale. Oblivion's player perspective was quite large when compared to Morrowind. New Vegas had problems with this as well. The player perspective and object size was incredibly huge, much larger than Oblivion. this created a seemingly smaller world (and made treking around terrible).

-RDST

I hope they make the map bigger but it doesn't matter to me what they do with Scale when compared to the map.

Skyrim's map will be bigger I bet.

Oblivion was bigger in total landmass, but Morrowind was built more to scale. Morrowind is about half the size of Oblivion in game, but Vvardenfell is about 1/4 the size of Cyrodiil on a map.

id like it to be 2-3x the size of cyrodil in OB

This. You have to understand that scale, and distance, are very relative, subjective things in a VR world. For example, if you measure distance by player travel speed ("days of travel"), then Oblivion's map size drastically varies with timescale mods installed. In real time, the map is very small when you can walk from town to town in 15 minutes. When it takes a few day-night-cycles, it becomes subjectively larger.

Level of detail also influences the perception of scale. If everything is crammed full of detail, it feels smaller, while huge empty spaces feel large. So a balance has to be found, and statements like "Oblivion was 8x8 miles" are largely meaningless.

I want Skyrim to feel huge, and for that a number of balances need to be gotten just right: mountain heights and slope gradients, player FOV, player speed, fast travel system...

boarders may change, makes sense seeing the disruption caused due to the oblivion crisis. this might mean skyrim is bigger.