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Probably because it never happened

Good point... shows how long it's been since I completed Oblivion, lol. Dovahkiin would win, in that case

Maybe, maybe, but the last two known DB's become gods (Reman & Hjalti), considering Thalmor's plot to undo Talos, someone should become new God.

Reman became a god???

Anyway the Thalmor want to undo Talos to remove Lorkhan from resistance which would basically break the foundations of Nirn apart, better yet they want to make it impossible for Lorkhan to ever return so there will be no new Nirn at a later stage outside of time.

The only way you could become a god then is by mantling Lorkhan, which would mean you would mantle Talos which would mean that you can't do it if the Thalmor succeed.

Yeah, but Tiber Septim didn't dirctly mantled Lorkhan, becouse he was already gone.

Was Reman a DB? Anyway, I do have to say that I am a "kind of" supporter of the DB = new Talos theory, simply because I support Ulfric (*hint" signature) mainly for the reason he is the way to strengthen Talos and therefore stopping the Thalmor, but considering how TES games usually "end" I can't really believe it myself.

No TES game since Morrowind has an real ending during the game, so everything we know of the hero is told in the next game. If this continues with Skyrim, which I believe, we will never ascend to godhood during the game called Skyrim. So TES 6 (hopefully subtitled "Black Marsh") will probably include some rumors à la "did you hear about that crazy person in the north?" where it's explained that the DB did something really awsome, which the player (!) already knows, and then vanished like the Nerevarine did. Of course Beth could include DB = Talos in TES6, but it would be strange to hear rumors like "oh btw, there is this old-new god up in the north".

And let's not forget that it's still not fully clear what exactly happened to the CoC. Is he really Sheo, was he Sheo all allong or did he even exist? As soon as you deal with Sheo there is no real "truth" anymore.

Nah, my bad. I completely forgot that he only helped Martin Septim; who, according to the wiki, was also a Dragonborn.

If Reman wouldn't be DB, the Akaviri would never join him.

No he pretty much did... Walk like them until they walk like you. Tiber his story in the Arcturian heresy resembles that in the most common of the the creation myths.



Oh yeah Reman was definitely a DB, but I still don't see how he became a god...

Atleast he is considered a god by Imperials.

Martin was of "Dragonblood", which ran in the Septim bloodline since Tiber Septim who was Dragonborn, or Hjalti was... or whatever his real identity is.
I thought this wasn't clear, but it makes sense.

Where are you getting this from?


Martin isn't directly related to Tiber... He's related to Tiber his dad though.

Still Martin was dragonborn.

Well, we don't know how the story of Dragonborn will turn out. He might become a god in some future DLC.

As of now I think DB would win in an open battle, but Sheo can drive him crazy over time.

So he is more like a demi-God.

Yeah, pretty much. He has a lot more power in the Shivering Isles - control over the weather, 'Sheogoraths Protection', legions of Dark Seducers and Golden Saints, the ability to summon a Saint/Seducer etc.
I daresay that, after his death as a mortal, he became a 'proper' Daedric Prince, but for balance reasons, he didn't during the events of Oblivion.

Luck statistic vs no luck statistic. All you need is to get lucky.

I wouldn't use the TES wiki for lore stuff, it's really unreliable. Since Tiber there wasn't a confirmed Dragonborn with similar powers, the entity "Dovahkiin" was invented for Skyrim and Tiber was confirmed as DB within Skyrim, not before. The Nerevarine was also called "Dragon born", but that referred to the fact that he was born in the Empire, possibly Cyrodiil, and not on Vvardenfell.

I have to confess I forgot much about the Septim line, but I'm pretty sure that every Septim except Tiber was supposed to be "Dragonblood" in order to bear the Amulet of Kings.

There the same thing though. It's kinda annoying because it makes a lot of Emperors that lit the dragonfires suddenly a magical being blessed by Akatosh, but that's the way it is. All of the Emperors that ever ruled over White-Gold and that managed to light the dragonfires were of dragonblood and thus dragonborn.

If they were born with the power or not is an entirely different discussion.

I thought the difference between the Dragonborn and Dragonblood was the soul. The Dovahkiin is basically a dragon trapped in a human body (i.e. dragon soul) while Dragonbloods are just related to one of those Dragonborns. This wouldn't make the Emperors really magical beeings and more people with a strange birth defect.

I guess if I was comparing the two from the point in the story where you save kvatch against the dragonborn I guess I gotta say I felt more bada$$ as the dragonborn but that's just me

Common assumption but not true.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/book-dragonborn.

Ah great, so the Emperors were magical entities after all, I hate retcons. Well, I guess there's a t least one more reason for our Dovahkiin to walk like Talos/Tiber/Hjalti/whatever his name really was and mantle him. I could swear the whole thing was explained differently in Oblivion, but then again, who gives a crap about OB.

In Oblivion dragonborns weren't what they are now. Bethesda had to find a way to make everything work with the new and improved Dragonborns... It's because of the same change that there is suddenly doubts about the Nerevarine being an incarnate of Nerevar or a Shezzarine, I'm still going with the first option though.

That happens when you develop games and stories in a changing world.