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How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:54 pm
by Lily Something
Is there a way to identify the exterior cell that my character is standing in from the console? I have picked out a place to build a fort for a mod but I need to know how to find that exterior cell in CK.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:24 pm
by Madeleine Rose Walsh
I do it the opposite way. I find a place in the CK, then use cow (CenterOnWorld) in the console. It requires a little more work but I don't know if there even is a way to determine what wilderness cell you're in from the console.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:04 pm
by Jhenna lee Lizama
Drop some object in the vicinity you think it is in the ck, and see if that object is there in game.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:51 am
by yessenia hermosillo
The way i did it was to find the spot in-game you wanted (which you did), then in the CK load the nearest named cell. So if you want your mod to be fairly close to Riverwood, you'd load Riverwood and scroll/drag the renderWindow until you see the area you want. Dungeons, mines, caves... they all have named cells (usually), so just do a quick walk-around the area if you haven't gotten a landmark already.

Once found, you may want to consider uniquely naming that cell so you can find it easier in the future (if it's a wilderness cell that is... don't change anything already named!). I put "aa" in front of the cell's name so it sits at the top of the list without searching for it. The only one's who that would annoy are those who load YOUR mod in the CK (which theoretically shouldn't be anyone).

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:57 pm
by I love YOu
Fire up console in game. Type:

GetPos z
GetPos y
GetPos x

Profit.

To find the coordinates in the ck, simply enter x and y coordinates in the cell window, where it say x and y.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:30 pm
by Laura Wilson
Fire up console in game. Type:

GetPos z
GetPos y
GetPos x

Profit.

To find the coordinates in the ck, simply enter x and y coordinates in the cell window, where it say x and y.
Doesnt work that way.

GetPos gets the game unis whereas the CK X and Y are referring to cell coordinates.


http://www.gamesas.com/user/764276-sluckyd/ said the easiest way.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:27 pm
by Jon O
What I ended up doing was using the console command cow tamriel x y , beginning with two random coordinates, then eyeballed the map, adjusted the coordinates and tried again, until I had been teleported to the location I had picked out. It only took a couple of minutes. Thanks for the help, everyone.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:08 pm
by Celestine Stardust
Doesnt work that way.
Yes it does. Just divide your x and y world co-ordinates by 4096 (a cell is 4096x4096 units) to get you cell co-ordinates. You'll be very close.

The best way however is to click on a tree or a rock in-game that sits exactly where you want to build, with the console open, and write down the Reference ID. Then run the CK with Skyrim loaded and open "Edit -> Find Text" from the menu's. Type your Reference ID into the "Search Text" field and click "Find text". Select the "Objects" tab and double click the single entry. Your desired cell will load in the render window with your chosen reference selected.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 pm
by Glu Glu
Doesnt work that way.

GetPos gets the game unis whereas the CK X and Y are referring to cell coordinates.

cellx = Math.floor( coordx/4096 )

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:50 pm
by jess hughes
I used the steps below but cannot guarantee the result you will get so good luck and ...

Try this:
  • Run game and take character to spot you want
  • Enter console
  • Click on a nearby object (For me it was a handy bench though this was internal!)
  • Make a note of the item ID
  • Close game
  • Run CK
  • Menu Bar>File>Data>Skyrim.esm + .esp (s)
  • Menu Bar>Edit>Find Text
  • Enter the object ID ref you noted in 'Search Text' (you may have to drop quotation marks and or brackets!)
  • Look in the five tabs listed and your object should be under objects
  • Read the details of the object to find the cell
I hope this helps or at least get you somewhere near!

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:19 am
by Dean
Excellent, thanks...took me right to the spot!

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:39 pm
by Mario Alcantar
What I do is grab the FormID of a rock or some other object not likely to be persistent, then search Skyrim.ESM for the FormID with FO3Edit. From there you can note the block number or see it in the description of the record.

[REFR:0002DD8A] (places RockCliff01 [STAT:0001CF9F] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:000096E3] (in Tamriel "? " [WRLD:0000003C] at 21,-10))

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:29 pm
by Hope Greenhaw
Hi bellondroneous. I don't mean to hijack your thread but I was wondering. If I create a new room, I can just plop it in the XY grid and when I go to the game it will be there?
Does that mean I can take an existing cottage and remodel it?
I'm just learning to play with the CK.

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:09 pm
by Brandi Norton
If it's in an exterior, it's likely you'd be dropping stuff into a pre-existing cell (Worldspace group). If it's a new interioir, it'll be off the grid and stored as a new cell (Cell group).

How to find the coordinates of an exterior cell

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:07 pm
by Georgine Lee
I found a really good tutorial on how to create a house and place it in the world.
http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/topic/4655-introduction-creation-kit-basics/