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Does everyone speak English now?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:16 am
by Lucky Boy
Exactly. Opinions are opinions. Nobody can tell you what your opinion of anything should be. But good god, if I posted all my blanket statements here I'd be the most hated person on the forums.

I'd just make fun of you. Hate takes too much effort.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:26 am
by RUby DIaz
Fun is fun, it is not necessarily always going to be a mental exercise that "embiggens" you. It's just fun and relaxing, refreshes your outlook, gives you pleasure.

For example, I just spent three hours poisoning guards in Oblivion, and now I'm off to read War and Peace.

I'm still a a loss as to how a thread about singing in your own language turned into this...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:21 am
by x a million...
So, in essence, the only reason you don't read things like Twilight is because you want to look clever, rather than based on the individual merits of the works themselves?

I don't know about you, but I read books, play games and watch movies because I like them, I don't do it out of a need to appear sophisticated.

Now, listening to Westlife may not look as fancy as listening to Arctic blwjobs or whatnot, but I enjoy it, and that's quite enough in my book.


How in the world do we go from me not understanding the appeal of Twilight to me trying to look clever and sophisticated? You're pulling too much out of my posts.

You have every right to your opinion, but I'm sure most people on this forum can agree that blanket statements about any group of people being inferior is something that is not welcome on this forum.

What group of inferior people?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:51 pm
by Benji
Re-rail?

I heard from some foreign singers that overall voice quality is more common for many Americans. Something having to do with the general accent, keeping an open throat as opposed to something more constricted or guttural.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:25 pm
by Miss K
This is how, Turns-the-Page.

Its swedish.

And what gives is crappy Americanised music has crushed the creativity of half the planet.



Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Of all the cultures to embrace, they want the most superficial?



There's nothing inherently wrong with Anmerican culture and music, I like a lot of it, but its just a shame to think how much good music in other languages never gets to see the light of day because everyone's obsessed with making it big in America.



If you can keep your opinions related to the specific type of music and not bash a particular country as "superficial", which is untrue, then this could be an interesting conversation.

And it all went down-hill from there.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:50 am
by butterfly
This is how, Turns-the-Page.

And it all went down-hill from there.

Hmm. That would kinda make it look like it was my fault. Bah. I was't saying all of American music was crappy, its jyust that in my experience its the crappy stuff the foreigners aspire to. Who knows how many musical genres might be strong if western society hadn't become homogenised in this way? For me, its always more about variety, not quality. Beethoven would start to annoy classical music enthusiasts if there was nothing but Beethoven.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:55 am
by Taylor Tifany
Well, I thought everything has been nail-on-target. I don't see any derail anywhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:30 am
by Steve Fallon
Wanna know why so many foreign artists aspire to "American" ideals for entertainment? I'ts because America is the Entertainment Industry. That is by far our biggest business, unfortunately, and our main export to the rest of ya'll (next to military weapons, of course). And then foreigners are under the impression that if they can make it big in America, they can make it big anywhere.

What a lot of people fail to realise, like I said before, is that America has the farthest thing from a homogenous culture. Anyone here even stepped foot into Central Texas? We love Texas more than we love America. Our music is different, our fairs are different, our accent is different, our food is different. When people think "America" they think L.A or New York, not Austin or Kansas City.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:02 am
by Chris Guerin
Hmm. That would kinda make it look like it was my fault. Bah. I was't saying all of American music was crappy, its jyust that in my experience its the crappy stuff the foreigners aspire to. Who knows how many musical genres might be strong if western society hadn't become homogenised in this way? For me, its always more about variety, not quality. Beethoven would start to annoy classical music enthusiasts if there was nothing but Beethoven.

That's a kinder, gentler way to say it all over again.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:39 am
by Rudi Carter
That's a kinder, gentler way to say it all over again.

Gentler way than what? This is what I don't understand, how everyone has got so worked up about this. I don't see what there is to get worked up about.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:33 am
by George PUluse
Gentler way than what? This is what I don't understand, how everyone has got so worked up about this. I don't see what there is to get worked up about.

You talkin bad 'bout 'Merica!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:50 am
by Kari Depp
You talkin bad 'bout 'Merica!

Why are you talkin' like Jethro Bodeen?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:02 pm
by Kerri Lee
Why are you talkin' like Jethro Bodeen?

Just my way of mocking anybody getting angry over anything anti-america.

LET'S DROP IT RIGHT HERE.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:54 pm
by casey macmillan
Just my way of mocking anybody getting angry over anything anti-america.

LET'S DROP IT RIGHT HERE.

Drop it, right after you picked up the flamethrower?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:58 am
by Katie Louise Ingram
Drop it, right after you picked up the flamethrower?

Yup. I need another warning like I need my right nut dead.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:20 am
by ImmaTakeYour
Anyway, this topic has served its purpose. Questions answered. Thanks everyone.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:30 am
by Naomi Ward
Just my way of mocking anybody getting angry over anything anti-america.

LET'S DROP IT RIGHT HERE.

There's nothing wrong with being anti-America. The reasons behind a person's feelings can be a little stupid, but there is nothing overtly wrong with it.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:18 am
by Mariaa EM.
turns-the-page, isn't it the responsibility of smaller or foreign artists to create their own music. Half of the cultural steamroll issue is meta-music and the other half is the people that would give their left foot to be a part of that system. Pop is not the pinnacle of music just because it is a big target with great benefits, and responsible artists should recognize that.

Many probably do, which is why unique cultural music probably stays local and is not broadcast around the world like a showpiece. Or it is, and every other person has no patience to respect the sound.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:30 am
by Anna Kyselova
Many probably do, which is why unique cultural music probably stays local and is not broadcast around the world like a showpiece. Or it is, and every other person has no patience to respect the sound.

Eh you're probably right. I just wish radio stations and the like would be more willing to give this stuff a showing.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:38 am
by WTW
singing = / = understanding or even competency in that language

Just because I can repeat the words of a song doesn't mean I can speak the language it's being spoken in

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:08 am
by Ally Chimienti
singing = / = understanding or even competency in that language

Just because I can repeat the words of a song doesn't mean I can speak the language it's being spoken in

I can probobally sayy one or two words from songs.
Ich will de sonne. I think thats how I would say I want the sun. Not useful but still I learned something, even if it is uselless. I wouldnt mind learning, french and italian though thinking of it, both countries seem like nice places to live.

Except the de part, I was right, now I need to learn how to say the in German.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:29 am
by WTW
Eh you're probably right. I just wish radio stations and the like would be more willing to give this stuff a showing.

I can understand radio stations not playing local music. They need rating to stay on the air, so they play the music the people want to hear. Which, at the moment, happens to be Pop/Hip-Hop/Rap/ect ect.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:52 am
by Shaylee Shaw
I can understand radio stations not playing local music. They need rating to stay on the air, so they play the music the people want to hear. Which, at the moment, happens to be Pop/Hip-Hop/Rap/ect ect.

Thing is, when one of our radio stations stopped playing Lady Gaga long enough to play Chippie Tea by The Lancashire Hotpots, they got a lot of positive feedback. So its not like the demand isn't there.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:04 am
by Donald Richards
Thing is, when one of our radio stations stopped playing Lady Gaga long enough to play Chippie Tea by The Lancashire Hotpots, they got a lot of positive feedback. So its not like the demand isn't there.

Then that's what their audience wanted to hear at the time. But if they switched over to pure local music, they would lose a portion of their audience.

I mean, if 103.5 BobFM stopped playing just random songs from the last 60 years, they would lose a huge chunk of their audience. This is why we have dedicated radio stations.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:54 am
by Maddy Paul
Hmm. That would kinda make it look like it was my fault. Bah. I was't saying all of American music was crappy, its jyust that in my experience its the crappy stuff the foreigners aspire to. Who knows how many musical genres might be strong if western society hadn't become homogenised in this way? For me, its always more about variety, not quality. Beethoven would start to annoy classical music enthusiasts if there was nothing but Beethoven.


Alright, let's have a little thought experiment, shall we?

Let's remove America from musical history altogether, which is really all that can be done to stop people from enjoying American music.

We would no longer have jazz, blues, rock, fusion, metal, gospel, grunge or punk.

I don't immediately see how that would somehow increase the diversity of music, do you?