Volkihars are masters of The Voice? : V

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 am

I was just playing Skyrim and was on my way up the Throat of the World and the first watching said that the power of the voice could be used to "blot out the sky and flood the land." It would be an interesting angle to go from with this DLC and I know I would enjoy it, but since they need an Elder Scroll in order to do so something tells me this isn't true unless they need the scroll to find the location of the Word Wall to learn this Thu'um.

Just an interesting point I thought I would bring up.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 am

I was just playing Skyrim and was on my way up the Throat of the World and the first watching said that the power of the voice could be used to "blot out the sky and flood the land." It would be an interesting angle to go from with this DLC and I know I would enjoy it, but since they need an Elder Scroll in order to do so something tells me this isn't true unless they need the scroll to find the location of the Word Wall to learn this Thu'um.

Just an interesting point I thought I would bring up.

well this actually makes no sense xD, the Elder Scroll is an ancient "thing" that no one understand it's real purpose, it usually is associated with prophecies, but no one understands it's real power, maybe except the Dwemer, but they are dead so it does not count :wink:

In Skyrim we used the Elder scrolls to travel in time in a time wound to learn a shout from it's creators, but this is just a use of it, unless bethesda say otherwise, they can do anything that no one know how, or when, or why :banana:

q-

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:39 pm

ya know when the scroll is shown it looks like a map, be really cool if the vamps need the dovahkiin's voice to blot out the sun

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:33 am

The Volkihar already in the game don't shout :blink:

At least I don't think they do

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:12 am

Interesting Concept. Perhaps the ability to shroud the sun is a Shout, similar to Clear Skies and Alduin's Meteor Storm.

The Volkihar already in the game don't shout :blink:

At least I don't think they do

They don't, but technically, there's no reason why they can't. Given their long Lifespans, a Vampire makes an idea candidate to master the Thu'um. All it would take is one Vampire knowing how to teach the Thu'um to open it up for every vampire really.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:19 pm

well this actually makes no sense xD, the Elder Scroll is an ancient "thing" that no one understand it's real purpose, it usually is associated with prophecies, but no one understands it's real power, maybe except the Dwemer, but they are dead so it does not count :wink:

In Skyrim we used the Elder scrolls to travel in time in a time wound to learn a shout from it's creators, but this is just a use of it, unless bethesda say otherwise, they can do anything that no one know how, or when, or why :banana:

q-

There's more than one scroll. Just because that one allows you to travel through time rifts doesn't mean they all do.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:03 am

There's more than one scroll. Just because that one allows you to travel through time rifts doesn't mean they all do.

But you're just looking for an Elder Scroll, they never say you need a specific one(s) to see the past.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:14 pm

I find it a bit wierd they can use the scrolls at all. I thought they were so powerful they blinded all who use it. The only reason you aren't blinded is because you have dragon blood, and even then your vision is messed up for a few seconds.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:47 pm

But you're just looking for an Elder Scroll, they never say you need a specific one(s) to see the past.

I thought elder scrolls just show the reality of the world, in oblivion they showed the grey fox the original thief of the cowl, thus breaking the curse of...people not knowing who you are. In skyrim they allowed you to glimpse into the past, much like the grey fox did.

If anything that appears to be all they are used for...besides the prophesy thing

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 am

I find it a bit wierd they can use the scrolls at all. I thought they were so powerful they blinded all who use it. The only reason you aren't blinded is because you have dragon blood, and even then your vision is messed up for a few seconds.

You're blinded if you sit there and actually try to read it. Maybe they won't have to. Plus, I mean, they are master vampire lords, so...

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:18 am

I find it a bit wierd they can use the scrolls at all. I thought they were so powerful they blinded all who use it. The only reason you aren't blinded is because you have dragon blood, and even then your vision is messed up for a few seconds.

Vampires have a unique vision ability: Vampire Sight.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:27 am

Vampires have a unique vision ability: Vampire Sight.

Isn't that night eye?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:34 am

Isn't that night eye?

Ya, I was just pulling that out of my ass.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:50 am

I find it a bit wierd they can use the scrolls at all. I thought they were so powerful they blinded all who use it. The only reason you aren't blinded is because you have dragon blood, and even then your vision is messed up for a few seconds.

They dont blind anyone who reads it once afaik. I could be wrong but afaik it blinds only those who repeatedly study it and become obsessed and read it a lot to have "almost" gotten a mastered understanding of it, which in my opinon is probably almost no mastery at all still because it seems their nature not to be masterable.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:11 am

The Elder Scroll itself will block out the sun, they wont use shouts...

Oh and since they are vampires, I'm betting their leader is thousands of years old so he prolly be studying up on the Elder Scrolls for a very long time to do this and now he knows how to do it so he is gonna try to do it.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:05 am

Just putting it out there, that we dont know whether or not the vamps are gunna blot out the sun per say.

Just the the plan is to end its tyranny which can mean many different things

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:58 am

Just putting it out there, that we dont know whether or not the vamps are gunna blot out the sun per say.

Just the the plan is to end its tyranny which can mean many different things

Tis one is correct so tis one deserves a Muffin!

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:29 am

The Elder Scrolls are pretty much a plot device in themselves, a deus ex machina. I can't see why the use the scroll to find the word wall to find the word to blot the sun idea is any more invalid as another. In fact, I like that one. Use that one, Todd.
Fishysticks to whoever thought of it.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:30 pm

The Volkihar already in the game don't shout :blink:

At least I don't think they do

I have actually come to believe that the current vampires in Skyrim that carry Sanguinare Vampiris are just another strain of vampires not related to the Volkihars. Immortal Blood just said they were the strongest strain of vampires in Skyrim, not the only one. So I think the ones that are named Volkihars in Skyrim are just imitators in order to scare off others or keep this strain in check. At least we know these vampires in Dawnguard are Volkihars so hopefully Beth stays true to the description in Immortal Blood.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:40 am

They dont blind anyone who reads it once afaik. I could be wrong but afaik it blinds only those who repeatedly study it and become obsessed and read it a lot to have "almost" gotten a mastered understanding of it, which in my opinon is probably almost no mastery at all still because it seems their nature not to be masterable.

Thank you for clearing that up

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:29 am

The Elder Scroll is Beth's scapegoat, a go-to deus ex machina. So there's nothing stopping them from taking out the sun with it. The voice, on the other hand, I'd say will play a lesser role.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:13 am

well in oblivion it rewrote history with the grey fox in skyrim they time traveled I'm guessing the elder scroll itself will not block out the sun but offer a means to block out the sun like summoning a permanent shroud over it or making a forever eclipse or maybe changing the sun itself to a red dwarf or something
but perhaps it's not even blocking the sun but curing vampires of the damage the sun causes them