What Concerns Us Should Concern Them...

Post » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:33 pm

In the varrious debate threads concerning this or that feature or functionality, many seem to take the standpoint of "We should have faith in ZOS that they know what they are doing."

That's all well and good. But just to be clear, A lot of people had faith in BioWare, that they knew what they were doing with SWTOR, and look what the result was.

Concerns really do need to be presented to ZOS in a civil and constructive manner. It is a well known fact that MMO players find loopholes in carefully designed systems that developers don't even consider. So whatever potential exploits or unintended advantages we see as potential threats to the integrity of the game, whether we are in Beta or not, we need to voice concern.

These forums are official, all be it temporarily located here. But being official, there has to be some way for our moderators to contact an actual Bethesda Softworks representative, who could in turn relay a message to someone in the ZOS studios who can get the concerns before the eyes of someone who can make sense of them and bring them before the other developers and decision makers.

MAYBE ZOS reads this board. We don't know. They haven't posted here. For all we know, we may exist in a vacuum to them.

I would say that the concerns in many threads on these forums should be consolidated in a single document outlining the concerns only, with all the argumentative drama filtered out, so the key points are addressed. And the person compiling that document needs to be capable of doing so in an unbiased way. Does ZOS know what concerns us as a community? It is my opinion that they should.

In my past, I have served as a liaison between an online community and those in official position. Regardless of my personal opinions on things I am capable of laying aside any bias and assume an impartial position. I may be vocal here about what I think, but I also try to take into account what others feel as well. So I offer to be the person who compiles the document. If a moderator would be willing to relay it to someone official when it is finished, then that would be the best we can hope for. What happens beyond that point would be out of our hands.

It may well be that we simply do not see the big picture, considering that so much of what TESO will ultimately be is unknown to us. However, sometimes partial information is enough to generate valid concern. I was active in the SWTOR community, and some of us saw potential problems that could negatively affect the game's initial box sales to subscriptions ratio. The "in BioWare We Trust!" crowd tried to ridicule us and discredit us at every turn, but when all was said and done, many of their number ended up not subscribing, or did not stay subscribed long due to the very things we tried to warn about.

In the past, I have bragged about having been right in what I and others saw. But that is a wrong attitude for me to have. This should not be about who is right or wrong, but rather about seeing that this game can be the best it possibly can be for all parties concerned: The Developers, The Elder Scrolls Fans, The MMO Fans, and any other group that wants this to be their next (or first) MMO home.

What I would like to do is ask those who agree with what I have said in this post to begin voicing their concerns. I do not care what side of an issue you are on. Leave the flamewars outside. Just voice your concerns. Those with opposing viewpoints, do not attack each other. This is not intended to be an argument. Only the basis for forming a list of valid concverns. There are other threads that exist for debate of the issues. I'll be reviewing all of them as well, and I will sift through the arguments and find key points and be putting them in the list as well, When I find redundant points, I'll drop the oldest instance of it and go with the newest.

At least that is the plan.

I thank you for your time, and hope that if this is considered to be a worthy endeavor, that it will remain positive and bear fruit.

Take care...
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Dylan Markese
 
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Post » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:55 am

You're right about some things. However, this IS a product. Fandom is created by the consumers. Much like any other thing or idea you could buy, it's not for everyone. If you have faith they will make a game you'll enjoy, then so be it. If you end up disappointed, tough luck. They're going to make their product with their vision, they will use ideas they read about, but that doesn't mean they will just implement the idea completely. The ideas can influence their decisions, but it's still going to be their product and their vision.

My opinion. I really don't know you. To quote your Signature, "There is a svcker born every minute." What you may call a svcker, are people who don't mind paying for and playing the game. Just because you wont like a game, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have to like the game.

I don't want you as a liaison. I don't want anyone as a liaison. I will sit here patiently, much like I did with SWTOR. Am I upset that the game isn't how I hoped it would be? A little bit, but I also reserve the right to stop playing it and move on. I did enjoy about a year's worth of playing the game, though. I didn't just play it and complain the whole time I was playing it. A lot of people seem to believe that being a "gamer" makes them a professional game developer, or business manager.

Remember, if you don't like how they are releasing information, then go hype yourself up for something else, or just stop hyping yourself up. This is a game, it's nothing that can seriously affect your ability to live.
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Post » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:06 am

I don't know if they read these forums. I would guess they do. But I do know they do read and respond to people on their Twitter. https://twitter.com/TESOnline

It's repetitive with the answers but they do answer questions. To the extent they are allowed to (regarding what info they can release about the game).
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Post » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:58 am

My only concern so far is that 3 faction PVP requires very healthy population, but I suppose they can faction marge like 1 year down the line, if it comes to that. Well, of course Blizzard Titan is the biggest concern of all concerns, its very likely its announced before this is launched or soon after, I say its this year they announce it, hell even Titan's hype can cause serious problems to this game.

BUUT, I throw at you a few reason why not to be concerned..
Megaserver. Come on, 99,9% of players agrees this is good idea, hell probably one of the best thing ever happened to this genre.
Fantasy, Fantasy always been strong in MMO genre and ES is one of the strongest fantasy IP's in whole game industry, especially after the success of Skyrim.
WoW's domination is slowing down, 100% surely. Look at the MMO forums, SWTOR, Rift, TSW, GW2, its obvious not everyone plays WoW anymore. It wasnt like this a few year back.

Im 100% sure ES get double/triple what SWTOR/Rift got currently..
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Post » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:38 pm

Why don't you just send them an email, seriously it's getting old now.
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