Anyone know the answer?
Does he know many, or is he a "one shout pony"?

Ulfric knows Unrelenting Force and Disarm.

Judging from the descriptions, even from Ulfric himself, he probably used Unrelenting Force on Torygg. Disarm just doesn't have the level of spectacle needed to cause such wild yarns about the incident. Weapon jumping out of hand... meh. Getting blasted off their feet by a thunderous blast? OMFG!

According to the Markarth Nords, Ulfric Shouted the Forsworn from the paraqets of Markarth. Sounds like Unrelenting Force to me.

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He doesn't know Marked for Death. Elisif was probably too shocked to be a reliable witness.

We DO know that Ulfric knows Unrelenting Force and Disarm, no other shouts.

Ulfric himself has this to say:


Ulfric Fus-Ro-Dah'd Torygg, rushed up to him clamoring to get back on his feet, then ran him through. You probably do it all the time. I know I sure do.

And, as I said, Ulfric only knows Unrelenting Force and Disarm. Confirmable with the CK.

Erhm... He didn't. You HAVE played through the main quest, right? Ulfric had nothing to do with the dragon.

I'm not sure hehe...

coincidence perhaps

But yeah I have only seen Ulfric use disarm and unrelenting force. he was shouting all over Solitude when I helped the Stormcloaks take it.

Of course I did. But I never took part in this civil war.

Ulfric only knows how to shout because he was sent to study with the Greybeards when he was a child. Why would they bother teaching anyone how to call a dragon? Dragons haven't been seen in so long that, up until you confirm that one attacked Helgen, people who say they saw one are considered candidates for the loony-bin.

Besides which, the Call Dragon shout isn't a shout that summons any dragon, you are calling a specific dragon by name, and the only reason you can do it is because you learned Odahviing's name and he *agrees* to come when you shout it.

Ulfric is not Dragonborn. The only reason the player learns so many shouts so quickly is because s/he *is* Dragonborn, and possesses the innate ability to shout despite not knowing (at first) the words of power or having the necessary understanding of them in their "magical" context. The former is obtained simply by seeing a word and the latter by absorbing the understanding directly from a dead dragon when you take its soul. After that the actual shouting of the word(s) comes naturally.

Ulfric can learn to say the words of a shout, but he doesn't have the innate ability to use them in a Thu'um nor can he absorb that knowledge in an instant by taking a dragon's soul. He had to learn *how* to shout in addition to spending a long time meditating on the words themselves in order to use them in a Thu'um. That is what learning to shout is like for someone who isn't Dragonborn - it takes much time and patience.




Nobody called Alduin. He was banished ages ago in the Dragon Wars, thrown forward in time, and popped back into the world in 4E 201. He's a demi-god, not some servant of humans who comes when called. And to call any dragon you'd need to shout his name in a proper Thu'um, did you see Ulfric doing any shouting at Helgen? No, because the Imperials had him gagged to prevent the possibility of him using the shouts he does know.

If he had the power to control a dragon why was it attacking the tower where he and his soldiers were trying to take cover? Why would he be taking cover at all if the dragon were doing his bidding by showing up to interrupt his execution?

As for the dragon at Helgen being really and truly Alduin, play through the opening with your subtitles on. The game itself identifies him for you.

Thank you for this answer. I feel better knowing that I'm not an idiot... hahaha. This dragon, at the exact moment Ulfric was going to be executed... It's all so strange and nobody can give a fair explanation...

Because it was! Once you hit "A Blade In The Dark", your character specifically says the "big black dragon" was the same one at Alduin. The same big black dragon is then explicitly called Alduin the World Eater by many other characters, the first being Esbern.

Have you not played *ANY* of the Main Quest either?

Because it WAS Alduin, read the last line of the post you just quoted. The dragon that attacks Helgen is Alduin. This is made clear later in the game when you encounter him again (altho you must be doing the MQ for it to happen), as he is unique in voice and appearance and easily recognized as the dragon from the beginning of the game. In addition to which, as I've already said, the game will identify him as Alduin right from the start if you have your subtitles on while playing through Helgen.

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Of course he'll seem weak if you played for a while. He's just an ancient dragon with a unique model, more HP and certain requirements to damage him..

Weird, I couldn't quote the part I wanted. Hmm.

No, I'm not annoyed, sorry if it came out that way. The drawback of internet communication.

No, sorry, I din't play any MQ..

Oh, oh, I see a "Planet of the Apes" revolution coming here... Aww, Chimpy. I'm certain that nobody meant it that way! It's just this "sterile" medium that makes people look like they are asses, when they are actually not. *huggles* You play Skyrim like you want to, MQ or no Psh, to Talos with the MQ!

EDIT: As for the shout Ulfric used. FUS RO DAHHHHHHHHH of course!

I have no idea how long you've owned Skyrim or how much you've played, and that's not my point, but most of us who frequent the Spoiler forum has played A LOT, and then it's easy to forget that there still are people out there who haven't played all questlines.

I don't think people mean to sound rude.

You cheer me up. Thank you soooo much

I just put an old topic just for you. A Sabre Cat for friend. With screenshots. It shows the way I like to play. There are so many ways to play: Very good, good, nasty, evil etc. As for me I prefer good.
I play until I reach Level 75 or 80. I don't play thief, assassin, some quests from bad Daedras and of course I do not take side in that civil war as I'm not a Nord and as Dovahkiin my destiny is to kill Alduin. In that war no-one knows who is right.. Of course if the Imperials were bad with people it would be different. But half of Skyrim is pro Imperials and the rest pro Stormcloaks.

Now to answer to your question: As you can see I started on Beth. Forum before you. In July 2011. I played Morrowind, Oblivion and now Skyrim. You'll see from my topic "A Sabre Cat for friend" that I started to play since November 2011. I have only 885 posts because I'm too busy to play A LOT. Well Steam shows that I have 12.228 In-Game and my actual character is at 1.781 hours. Level 70. I played many diff. characters.

So yes, you were rude (not everybody but specially Lyn1964 and MadCat221. I almost called the Mod but I renunced). You must not hurt the feeling of the players as stated in the rules of this Forum. I was polite, asking question and not stating that I was right and you were wrong! So why jump on me like that making me feel miserable?

So now look at my topic and see how people were nice before this dreadful yesterday. Cheers And lets forget all this..

Ulfric wasnt shouting, he was crying. Torygg fell on his own sword out of clumsyness. Then Ulfric fainted at the sight of the blood. It was the least manly battle in the history of the nords. Elisef was so ashamed on behalf of the nords that they came up with the shout story. Also Elisef demanded the removal of Ulfrics tearducts. So ended the most awkward battle in nord history as they all left there with a story that was far from the truth.