What's with all these pol. correct job postings?

Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:24 am

So I'm applying for jobs online, but it's difficult to tell sometimes what I'm applying for.

When I apply for a job, instead of an “Employment” or “Apply for Job” link I get “Career Opportunities Center” or even just “Opportunities.” Wow, that was helpful.

In the list of positions instead of applying as a clerk, secretary, technician, or griller I am applying as a “Hourly Assistant” or “Team Member.” What the hell does “Team Member” even say about the job? “Helping out teammates” and “ensuring completion of team goals” absolutely does not count as a job description. Am I a [censored] sports mascot or an employee?

Here's bits of a job description from Chipotle, or should I say a "politically correct marketing campaign filled with BS to get employees":

Restaurant Team Member - Crew

Building the perfect burrito

So they're already asking me to do something impossible?

learn to make great food and get ready to grow.

This is just a part-time job....

Our Crew members take pride in preparing and serving Chipotle’s delicious food. 

Sure they do. I'm sure custodians take pride in cleaning toilets.

Completing hot and cold food preparation assignment accurately, neatly, and in a timely fashion

Translation: cooking well and not doing a piss-poor job.

? Following recipes accurately and maintaining food preparation processes such as marinating, seasoning, and grilling meats; chopping herbs; dicing, cutting, and slicing vegetables? Preparing food throughout the day as needed, anticipating and reacting to customer volume? Maintaining appropriate portion control and consistently monitoring food levels on the line? Maintaining proper food handling, safety, and sanitation standards while preparing food

So...keep cooking the whole day, and don't do anything stupid. Seriously, I still don't know anything about this job except that I'm going to be following a bunch of rules and cooking.

And then it just goes on about the Ideal Candidate having Great Personality Traits and Worshipping the Team. Jk.

But really, why can't they just say, "Manning the register" and "Baking pies." It's only going to get worse from here on out, I'm afraid.

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Sophie Payne
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:04 am

ugh ikr

im looking for another job atm and everything is just filled with [censored] :l

and the ideal candidate is the same line for every job LOL. when i applied to apple though they ask what is the ideal worker and it was like 'someone who is happy and helpful' or 'someone who is obsessed with apple'

... i had a sneaky feeling it was the latter ;/

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Motionsharp
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:27 pm

At least you know who the job is with. The UK official government jobsearch site usually says: Employer - company confidential.

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joeK
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:39 am

Actually, I understood all that and it is true. When I first walked in on my first day, my boss told me that this job is a little of everything. About the "ready to grow" thing, that is true. I have learned from my boss, the cook and my other supervisors how to food prep in a quick but clean manner and I have pride for the stuff I do (even the busboy part. I have grown so accustomed to that, a party of 100 is nothing to me!).

Have you ever worked in the restaurant business? If not, you will be surprised how much you will actually be doing and how fast paced it is.

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Erich Lendermon
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:39 pm

Because they take pride in preparing and serving up Chipotle's ridiculous bull[censored].

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Shelby Huffman
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:50 am

I think it's more of how job listings are being more and more fluffy sounding and PC. I can agree with where BetrayalSeeker is coming from, as it felt like most job postings sounded like this, and it can be a little annoying.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:45 am

Nope I haven't. But I was more referring to how they make this sound like a career advertisemant, not an actual skills assessment and description of the job.

Really, any job is going to make you grow.

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Natasha Callaghan
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:20 pm

It's a job wrapping up beans, rice and meat in a tortilla. They have to make it sound interesting.

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Tammie Flint
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:36 pm

Err... Is this seriously a question? Businesses are trying to make the job sound good and in a manner that sounds professional. I do not understand why this is even a thread.

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brian adkins
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:09 am

Along the lines of political correctness, my friend applied for a job at KFC but got turned down because he was the 'wrong ethnicity'. He is white.

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Theodore Walling
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:05 pm

Really? Your angry that their using hyperbole to describe their burritos?
From your OP it's clear you understood every word of the description you needed to understand, so mission accomplished. If you want to complain that their trying to make the job look good, what do you want them to do? Make it look bad?

I don't think that would even be classed as political correctness, and your anolysis is more nitpicking about positive language and not actually pointing out why it's a problem.

First world problems. First world problems indeed.

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Emily Jeffs
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:55 pm

I know what you mean. At least the description in the example you gave actually let you know what the job was.

You're right. People in First World countries should be completely happy 100% of the time or they are out of touch with reality because other people are startving to death so they have nothing to be unhappy about.

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Romy Welsch
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:29 am

Which is clearly the best one!

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Javaun Thompson
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:46 am

I don't see how saying it's a first world problem says it isn't a problem, but I do think it is trivial whether or not a company claims to teach people to make perfect burritos.

I fail to see how one would be unhappy about a job description advertising itself.

Besides, the term doesn't even mean that, seeing as it is used to mock problems that are trivial even in the first world. No-one says first world problems when someone is evicted from their house, when someone sees a Taco Bell job ad that extols the virtues of Taco Bell? That isn't as big of a problem.

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Jessica Phoenix
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:07 am

These didn't really sound politically correct, just full of marketing terms.

The whole first world problems thing is mainly for mocking things like when someone says they are bored, yet have tons to do all around them. It isn't really a serious term at all. There's a counterpart of it called Third World Successes.

http://global3.memecdn.com/first-world-problem-third-world-success_o_297465.jpg

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Minako
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:21 pm

well the whole "opportunities" thing is less about being politically correct and more about employers and management seeming to believe that by giving you a job at their establishment they are giving you a golden ticket to the chocolate factory.

the job titles also are really so much politically correct but to be vague, so that there isn't any reason or right for the employee to say "that isn't my job". Especially for the "team member" position, basically so they can have you do all the tasks/responsibilities at the job as opposed to generally what they hired you to do.

basically, they may be hiring you because they need a cashier, but they also want to be able to tell you to do what ever they want you to do as well, like clean the bathrooms.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:50 pm

Just thought I'd add it in there, imagine if he was Indian or Pakistani, pretty sure this wouldn't be something to laugh about.

Edit: This post comes off as making me sound angry about it, I'm not. I understand equal opportunities and all that but things like this defeat the purpose, pol corr gone too far.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:19 am

KFC might have an affirmative action policy to hire a quota of minorities; in which case, fair enough that they didn't hire your friend. And if you think that is "political correctness gone too far", then contrary to what you say you don't understand equal opportunities.

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Bereket Fekadu
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:56 am

There's politically correct terms for being dead.

Dead - Actuarially Mature
Dead - biologically challenged
Dead - environmentally correct human
Dead - living impaired
Dead - metabolically challenged
Dead - persons living with entropy

I wonder how many dead people are that easy to offend...

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Emma Louise Adams
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:01 pm

Yes, people, this is a completely trivial thread. So is this forum.

Moving on now.

It's just indicative of the society here in America where people can't be honest. If you're going to sell me a job, putting BS turns me off. Telling me I'm going to man a cash register is actually more attractive than "make the perfect burrito." Because I don't give a [censored] about the burrito. I care about how I am spending my time to make money so that I can live my life.

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Alberto Aguilera
 
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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:50 am

it isn't political correctness gone to far, it is an unequal act. if you have two people who are exactly as qualified and as skilled as each other, but of two different races and then hire one over another just because they are of a prioritized race, that isn't equality.

at the same time, reverse discrimination isn't a thing. there is only discrimination. you don't balance any thing out by discriminating against one group of people because another had been discriminated against too much in the past.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:58 pm

With my first full time job, if they had described it truthfully, it would have said, you'll be doing the most work and getting the lowest wage out of all the staff.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:21 pm

I thought the whole point of it was to hire people based on skills and such like, not based on their ethnicity or having a certain number of minorities, which goes against equal opportunities.

The way I see it, equal opportunities should be (example): two people apply for a job at a lab (or whatever), one is a black female, one is a white male. The black one has a degree in science and not a lot of experience working in labs, whilst the white one has a degree in science but has lots of experience working in labs. An equal opportunities employer would only focus on the skills and experience, and would hire the white guy. If it was the sort of equal opportunities KFC has then probably the black woman based on ethnicity & gender, just so they can say they have a certain number of minorities working there (seems pretty stupid to me, as not everyone is on an equal footing).

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:29 pm

that is the only purpose it serves these days, but when "equal opportunity" and affirmative action first rolled out they were a necessity because most employers would would discriminate against applicants and simply would not hire workers of a certain ethnicity.

We don't need that now days since racists are a minority. There are still some issues with higher unemployement with some races, but that has a lot to do with poor school systems in highly populated areas. when some one refuses to hire some one based on ethnicity these days it is taken to social media and the business looses most of its consumer base.

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Post » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:55 am

Except if the ethnicity is white.

I'm not against equal opportunities, I think people of all ethnicities should have the right to be hired for jobs, provided they have the right skills for it. I just think some systems like minority hiring quotas just go against the whole idea of it.

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