I had gotten my hopes up way to much when the first two waves were starting. It has been a month since the last beta invites. So conspiracy and speculation time, i wonder what happened. I am thinking they either had some massive issue that is delaying them or they are simply waiting till after E3 to even consider sending out more. Zenimax and their secretive ways are frustrating me.

I don't think they're announcing them anymore, I have gotten an unconfirmed (obviously) report of someone getting an invite this week. Maybe they announced the invites the first few weeks to freak people out? Idk.. But yeah, I really hate how secretive they are of everything, but it's too late to go back. If they were going to be more open, they would have needed to completely been open/no NDA from the beginning - if it were that open, no one would freak out and know exactly where the game was going.

I can't blame them for being secretive, it just svcks because its diminishing my hype and involvment in the game, this forum is the only thing keeping me interested at this point. SWTOR was so open about its game that it failed to live up to promises simply because it was very open about its ideas for the last 2 years of its development....and thats just silly. Lots of games copied WoW but they never took it to thought that maybe they should be copying the development practices such as keeping your mouth shut until you have a concrete functional game.

The problem with being "completely open", is that people still read into and between the lines of everything that is said. And the Divines forbid that anything that is in one version of the game gets cut even if it doesn't work. Because *everyone* knows that stuff would work if only the devs weren't so lazy. They just lie about what is in the game so people will buy it. And stuff that doesn't work at first and comes out later is obviously just cut out so they can milk more money out of the players. [/sarcasm]

If they just released everything, you would get the "But why aren't you doing it this way?" "Why aren't you including that, it only takes two minutes to code?" "No, that can't work, you have to do it this way since it is how I want it done", and so on and on and on. They should keep things quiet until they have the game content locked down. The devs do want hype for the game, but they usually try ti keep the hype reasonable. Its when people read into the information that hype gets out of hand, and that isn't the devs at all. I've seen it on these forums; "There will be horses in Skyrim." somehow morphed into everything from mounted combat to jousting, and people were upset that there were horses in Skyrim instead of what they thought was said.

I agree, people jump the gun too much and any change is the end of the world or the devs just gave up when really its technological limitations and time that are the culprit. You would think in this day and age of information be so easily available, that level of misinterpretations wouldn't happen but the internet is now just the really bad game of "telephone"(grade school game where you say a phrase and pass it down the line and by the time it reaches the last person in line it is nowhere near the orginal phrase that was said)...still they could at least put me in beta(im special) /sarcasm.

Meh.. let the close-minded fools come to the wrong conclusions and not buy the game, I certainly won't be holding my breath waiting for them to come back.

I guess since ESO isn't aiming for a niche game it's stupid to go tell someone else to play a different game, but with a completely open game, you'll have just as many people that are super informed to quell most people's concerns with a game when they're brought up - rather than hushing things up, they're basically hiring the players for free to advertize and defend their game.

I think we already do that too much on these forums LOL. Even the slightest bit of information and there's a 7 page thread arguing over it. I honestly don't mind that they've gone completely secretive, I'm just glad they weren't half-hearted about it and let the wrong info out. They would either need a completely open game off the bat or completely secretive, it's foolish to try and do both. Completely open has its flaws for sure, but so does completely secretive. Neither of them are as bad as a secretive game that suddenly opens up completely and shocks unready eyes or a completely open way that decides to shut everyone off all the sudden.

EA hyped SWTOR because it was a poor game, I think ZOS are going back to old school beta testing which means we wont hear anything solid from beta until the game goes into Open Beta and the NDA is dropped. So do not expect a lot of hype like you see from other mmo's which are still in closed beta.

Just leave it and sort of forget about it. That way when you do get an invite it'll be like a spontaneous Christmas. And who doesn't like the sound of that?