Yeah, I would guess the Prydwen may be serving as the Brotherhood's mobile headquarters in Fallout 4. A place for verti's to land/depart from. In addition to whatever ground-outposts they have.

Can't wait to blow it up.

I would say that's more than likely, the trailer really kind of spoils it. I reckon we either side with, presumably the Institute and take down the Airship, or we side with the BoS and wipe out the Institute with the laser weapon. We see both in the trailer.

Yeah same man, that mother [censored] is going down.

It actually doesn't appear that what destroys the institute is a laser weapon actually.

When viewed in slow motion, the "laser" starts from the ground and goes UP. Rather then a laser from orbit causing the explosion.

seems more like a large generator exploding then a laser weapon.

I know it was that pic, I was posting a different one of what looked like hangers on the side for more examples of how/where they would land.

I am basing it off of what happened after Broken Steel because it's factual, and provides actual insight into the BoS' future motives. I get that Boston is in close proximity to them, and it would be in their backyard, but I won't for a second believe that a faction was able to get their stuff together, build an airship, recruit and train lost manpower after a very exhausting war with an extremely weak Enclave (relative to what they were before), and send an aggressive expedition into Boston, all in two months.

The MwBoS can get vertibirds from any of the numerous Enclave outposts that exist. There was definitely an outpost in Chicago. As far as traveling to Boston, I imagine that tech like Androids would be quite lucrative in a war against an encroaching Seizure's Legion. Or, they just don't like Androids running around willy nilly with "free will" (Calculator epidemic 2.0).

-One would, but there's a big fat disclaimer on the armor page that says it contradicts canon, so there's that.

-Bethesda liked the design and they used it for conceptualizing the Enclave armor. Canonically, what the MwBoS actually uses is up for grabs.

-If an ocean separated Chicago from D.C., they would have taken a boat. Meaningless point to bring up mate.

-I know that the Outcasts themselves try to avoid engaging the BoS because they're on the main mission, but they will and do fight. By 2278 they're making deliveries across the wasteland and encroaching into Outcast territory. One would imagine that this would escalate things.

-True, but given Lyons' direction at the end of Broken Steel, I imagine they'd be more keen in dedicating resources to rebuilding Liberty Prime. The time span of 2 months is too short for them to suddenly go from barely winning a war with a severely weak Enclave, to fielding an airship and making expeditions into the Wasteland.

-No, it says details MIGHT contradict canon, because Tactics is semi-canon, not that it DOES for sure.

-The Enclave stopped over and set up outposts in Chicago on thier way to D.C.. Where do you think they got the armor designs from in the first place?

-The point was that one large distance compared to another large distance. be it the 440 miles from D.C. to Boston, or the 980 miles from Chicago to Boston, flying over the nuclear wasteland is generally always preferable then walking over it. Especially if yu are fighting a war, and need to move troops quickly.

-Maybe, but we never get anything confirming escalation of hostilities in-game.

-That is if it is 2 months. And this is Bethesda, you really think they wouldn't make up something like "with the huge influx of people from the Project Purity PR stunt, Lyons was able it do it in record time, and went charging off to chance down the super mutants beofre their war effort lost momentum!"

Just let the Midwest guys keep dreaming possum, they'll be proved wrong by time eventually.

-k

-The Lyons' BoS won a war and gained access to extremely advanced Power Armor, in addition to the Vertibird tech (compared to their standard issue T-45d), I don't see them running around in that get up though . The point is that based on the haziness of tactics lore, it's not clear what armor they used.

-Yes, but we are talking about a group that made a coast to coast expedition in the first place.

-It is two months.

And if you're wrong, I'll send you a pm with this exact quote of yours so you can chew on it.

We could all end up being surprised by it not being either of the BoS chapters.

Boston is east coast, not mid-west. Most likely, Lyon Brotherhood.

By the look of it the t-60 is new armour which looks a lot like enhanced t-45. So it would appear that they updated their suits.

Remember when Bethesda told Obsidian that they couldn't set their game in the 2250s because their policy is that things always move forward? Even though the events in New Vegas would have no affect on The East Coast at-all. I'm betting the same applies here. Where is the source on 2 months?

But:

A. There's no evidence of the Enclave outposts being anything more than a few guys manning radio station, and certainly not enough to spring forth a massive Vertibird fleet.

B. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the Legion loses in New Vegas, which makes them far less of a threat. And that's even if Caesar was referring to them.

C. I'm pretty sure if anything its been shown that the Androids are a pain in the ass actually. What with their demands of "rights" and all.

D. We haven't heard diddly squat about the Midwest thus far. You're assuming they're in a far better state than they might be.

Why is it two months and not several years?

If you're taking Pete Hines statement as factual, I've already pointed out why that's an issue.

There is no source for 2 months.

Todd said in the e3 stuff that you exit the vault 200 years later, and people asked Pete if Todd meant 200 years, or if it was just a 200ish years thing, and Pete simply responded "200 years".

Fallout 3 is set in August 2277, and if Fallout 4 does take place EXACTLY 200 years after the war, it would begin in October 2277, 2 months after fo3.

https://twitter.com/dcdeacon/status/616721092963512320

Essentially what Possum said though. Fo3 began in august 2077. Fo4 would begin in october 2077.

a. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

b. The game would have to take place in 2281 in order for the Legion to lose the second battle of hoover dam. Whether they do is really up to Obsidian/Bethesda, though.

c. True.

d. The mysterious aspect of the MwBoS gives a lot of room to 1. introduce a 'new' (i.e. different) chapter of the BoS and 2. create new lore for them.

e. It's two months according to Pete's tweet.

f. And I have pointed out why it's not.

Pete's simple "200 years" statement is in no way a solid indication of the date. He's just being purposely vague and repeating what was said before.

I'll find a mildly edible hat and gladly eat it if Fallout 4 is set that close to Fallout 3. Why in the world would they go back in time when they've already stated they had a policy of not doing that?

It's possible that the grand-narrative is told over several years, and it may end in a date placed after FNV. That would certainly provide enough room for the Lyons BoS to make the entrance, but I don't believe Bethesda has ever told a main story over several years - correct me if I'm wrong.

Maybe, but that seems convoluted unless they're going to do a time skip of some sort.

I still think it'll be set after New Vegas. Maybe not, but Bethesda would be hypocritical as [censored] if they broke their own rule after forcing Obsidian to abide by it.

Ohh, there will be a time skip all right, of 200 years, then the Sole Survivor is going to exist the vault, find himself in a snowy area, try to walk around, get accused of illegially crossing a border, then find himself on a carriage on a prison convey going to execute a local terrorist leader...............

Wait, wrong game.

The BoS == Stormcloaks? Mind officially blown.

Well, I do know know this - Fallout 4 needs more Enclave.

No. Let the Enclave die.

Agreed. How many times can we gamers kick the [censored] out a faction before it will be no more?

Any one but west coast since they were all but dead during NV. I could stand experiencing Midwest or one of the other branches though.

They will never die, for they are an instinct, a habit, a disease. They are the world that was, refusing to admit defeat in an age long since the battle was lost.

They are a cancer that had spread itself across all of America long before the war, with hideouts, safehouses, caches of technology, and production facilities. They are the eternal planner, with endless fail safes, and backups.

They are the ones who planned, and survived, the most destructive force the world had ever seen, and did so in such a way o other group could have even begun to match.

So long as even the faintest memory of the world that was survives, so shall those who exemplify it.

Boy, that got deep in a hurry.

Dude's not wrong, though. As a faction, it seems they really do fight to the last man.

As I recall, they view the rest of world [population] as infected/mutated/scum of the earth. It's very hard to imagine them recruiting from outside of their own ranks. As a cult that should have died out on their own by now ~without the help of the nuclear bomb set off at their HQ in Fallout 2.

I think they have become this series equivalent of the Beagle Boys.