Most members of the Imperial Legion are secretly Thalmor-hating Talos Worshippers themselves, and the Thalmor don't want the Empire and its Nord supporters to win the Civil War, so you might as well join them.

Again like I said there is not a hint of what will happen. so no lore.

There should be a third faction in the Civil War.You.I hate both Imperials and Stormcloaks and I should be High King,not that selfish Nord that weak Jarl of Solitude.

This.

QUOTE: High Rock wouldn't fight against the Nords...they have had a history of working together, and will more likely join them if the Empire tries to force them into a war with Skyrim.

No, I don't think the Empire will try to force a second war after losing the first. But what if High Rock is attacked and invaded by the Altmeri? How is Cyrodiil going to get Empire troops there to support them? I SERIOUSLY doubt Skyrim's going to allow a few legions of Imperial troops to march through their territory. The only support that will be available is whatever troops Cyrodiil can send via ship. And if it's not enough:

1. High Rock goes down.
2. Hammerfell is caught in pincers between High Rock and the Aldmeri's southern provinces. It's unlikely that they will be able to cover both fronts.
3. Cyrodiil has to defend its borders against High Rock, Hammerfell, Valenwood, and Elseweyr. It's one province against four, and Cyrodiil has been weakened by both the Great War and the Skyrim conflict. It may put up a good fight, but the ending won't be in doubt.
4. Skyrim stands alone. If the Dominion want to conquer it, they will.

What giving a bunch of free loading elves some place to live, i'd feel sorry for them if they were forced to stay there, they can leave or work to better themselves if they so choose

actauuly they took over valenwood and beat the empire
hammerfell people are strong they won because the thalmor didnt count on the crowns and the fore bares to unite which skyrim and the empire should do but the thalmor are playing it nice by keeping them apart
got my info from tes lore and the thalmor books in skyrim

QUOTE: The Thalmor are in Skyrim because the Empire have allowed them in, and are in fact colluding with the Altmer. Once the Stormcloaks take over, there will be no more Thalmor presence in Skyrim. Seeing that the entire Aldmeri Dominion had its behind kicked by Hammerfell (who had no help from anyone else), Skyrim has nothing to fear.

In the short run, that may be so. But the long run could easily be a different story. Ulfric is playing right into the Aldmeri dominion's hands, turning the Empire into a disunited and easily conquerable confederation of territories. And if the Dragonborn supports Ulfric, they bring that nasty little scheme closer to fruition.

I agree. Plus, the situation in Hammerfell is different. At that point, the Aldmeri army was still reeling from fighting in Cyrodiil, while since then, they've had 25 years to rebuild, and if Skyrim secedes, the WGC no longer applies, which means there's nothing stopping them from attacking in force. There's a big difference between an army and a few Justicars here and there.

Depends on multiple things.

a) Do you want to defend Whiterun from ongoing attacks or storm the city

b ) Do you want to storm Solitude or Windhelm

c) Do you think that the banning of the worship of Talos is truly a good reason for war

d) Are you rascist.


those are all questions that can help you decide.

if your answer to A is defend, join the Imperials.

if your answer to B is Solitude, join the Stormcloaks.

if your answer to C is Yes, join the Stormcloaks.

if your answer to D is No, join the Imperials.

Oh no not another one of these threads


IMHO I would go with the imperials for the simple fact that they are aesthetically more appealing.

GO ROMANS!

The Thalmor fielded two different armies: one in Cyrodiil and another in Hammerfell. Both were destroyed, and the Altmer have fewer children and longer lifespans(meaning it takes longer for an Altmer child to reach fighting age), so the dominion would still be at a disadvantage numerically.
Yeah, but then High Rock has defeated coalitions of enemies in the past when they have been forced to work together as a unified force(High Rock was formerly a loose coalition of city states before being conquered by the empire). Summerset would also have to pass through unfriendly territory, and invading High Rock would void the White Gold concordant, bringing Skyrim and Cyrodiil down onto the heads of the Thalmor. Neither would let High Rock fall to the Thalmor armies.

3. High Rock and Hammerfell are sympathetic(at the very least) to the Imperials, I don't see your point here.
4. I doubt any other human state would allow Skyrim to stand alone. Even after Hammerfell left the Empire, the Imperials left aid in the form of officers left behind.


c) Do you think religious persecution should be allowed?
d) Do you support basic man/mer rights?

If your answer to c is yes join the Imperials.

If your answer to d is no join the Imperials.

I also love loaded question!

Also to add an addition, Ulfric is sending ambassadors to Hammerfell after the civil war, in order to strike up an alliance.

e) Do you want the Dominion to only have to waltz through a group of petty independent states, instead of a unified nation?

f) Would you like to be dominated by the Thalmor in the long run?

g) Do you want Talos worship to one day be allowed again?

If you answered yes to e or f, join the Stormcloaks.

If you answered yes to g, join the Imperials.

I think it can be much simpler.

Do you want to fight an annoying Nord? Join the Imperials. You want to fight an annoying Imperial? Join the Stormcloaks.

I believe that the imperials will pull throough in the end

I thought of something interesting the other day.

What if the cyrodillic empire collapsed but the empire in skyrim remained,. It could become a bit like tamriels version of the eastern roman empire/Byzantine empire.

I'll say talk to the people in game who follow the leaders as well as Ulfric and Tullius themselves then decide for yourself. that is what I did.

Funny, the empire allowed the thalmor to dominate the bosmer and khajiit without putting up a fight at all. Talk about good for all and whatnot. The empire's been crumbling for years now. There's a reason the symbol of akatosh, which had once been the symbol of the empire, is broken in skyrim.

There's plenty of evidence that the empire will fall quite soon. The question is, do you think Tullius should be the one leading the remnants of the thalmor resistance or Ulfric? I think either is capable of it, but severing from the dying monstrosity before it causes anymore damage seems like the better plan.

Most imperials really aren't looking at the long run and seem to have an amazing amount of confidence in an elder council that not only has a reputation of being highly corrupt, but would
But then again, most people think Tullius runs the empire.(If only he did)

h)Do you want the Thalmor to walk through a system of states infiltrated and weakened by Thalmor agents instead of having powerful states free of Thalmor influence?
i)Would you like to win against the Thalmor without losing your values or after sacrificing them?
j)Do you want Talos worship, and power, restored to a human Divine who can help his followers against the Thalmor now or after the Thalmor have suceeded in their agenda against mankind?

If you answered yes to h join the Imperials.

If you answered yes to i or j join the Stormcloaks.

Does your character look better in a red skirt, or blue scarf?

Both, but then he gets shot at by both sides in Halo:Reach.

Elsweyr seceded when the Empire was still reeling from the Oblivion Crisis, and the Khajiit believed the Thalmor's lies. Valenwood and the Summerset Isles left when the Empire was recovering, not too long after Titus Mede I captured the Imperial City. It couldn't have done anything at the time.

Not necessarily. It's recovering faster than the Dominion is, as humans easily outbreed and outgrow elves. If the Stormcloaks would have just aided the Imperials, the recovery could've been even faster, but of course they had to go and rebel and waste young men and money and just play right into the Thalmor's hands.

The Imperials aren't looking at the long run? The Stormcloaks' only plan is to push out Empire, get men, get ships, kill elves. One little province recovering from a Civil War versus the entire Dominion? Stormcloak Skyrim wouldn't stand a chance. When was that? I honestly cannot recall.

And I'm not one of them.

My first character fought for the Empire. I felt justified in doing so. However, after starting my second character I noticed the Empire was weak towards the end of its reign (just like the Romans). I understand the reasoning behind the Empire signing the treaty with the Thalmor... but I don't agree with it. PERSONALLY, I would rather die standing than live on my knees.

Also, the game presents itself so both sides are justified. There is no "right" or "wrong" really.

Saying "all Stormcloaks are racist" is stupid. Just like saying "all Imperials are sycophants" is also stupid.