So many countless posts recently have been talking about how imbalanced you can make the game how terrible one path is how amazingly overpowered another is, Half the time its always the same theme people [censored]ing about how after they raised something to point X it didnt meet or too far exceeded their expectations.

What really happened to people just playing and enjoying a game for what it has instead of trying to beat it, to win the game, to utterly destroy the game. All that happens when you do this is you just go ok whats next?

Just play the game and allow it to unfurl as you go, instead of having this end goal in mind all the time. People even complain the story svcking that its not good enough compared to other ones that are more story driven.

Ive played a lot of games that have amazing wonderful stories and are great fun, but you know where they are now? Collecting dust. After i beat one of these well laid out story driven games my questions are answered the plot is revealed and i rarely give them a second play through. Skyrim gives you the opportunity to create your own story on your own terms instead of herding you along rails and its like everyone is so used to being ushered along on a story that they must pound through Skyrim and get to the end result, and woah what a surprise that you are disappointed.

I have about 40 hours put in to 1 character so far, i think i have completed maybe 10 quests of the main storyline and my highest skill is at about 72 on a lvl 22 character and i am loving everything about the game still. And when i feel its time to start a new character i can choose completely different options and head out in a totally different direction and have just as much fun.

Its basically the old saying of its the journey not the destination. Games are very destination oriented and Skyrim is definitely a game where you can just love the journey.

Agreed. I have no complaints, honestly. I have found a good bit of bugs (360 version) and have experienced a single freeze. But the things Bethesda did right far outweigh the oops moments. This game is great. Always.

Just because 14 people are complaining on the forum doesn't mean that hundreds of thousands aren't doing exactly what you just said. I love the game, and I'm just playing it.

Semi-agree. The complaints on these forums DOES help Bethesda in rectifying problems in the game. They do listen to their community and this is Bethesda's forums so expect complaining. Me on the other hand, I've been just playing the game and I've been loving every minute of it.

I suspect that a lot of folks (like me) who are happily just playing the game are less inclined to read those threads, much less post in them.

I don't know man. I'm just surfing slow with the game. There's so much to do in it! But it is my intention to become an all-powerful wizard to destroy anything in my path; much like I've done in Oblivion. In Morrowind I made this crazy super-powered Khajiit.

I thought that when the game was released, this forum was going to die for a while, since all ppl were playing the game, but seems they are more busy whining here =/
However there are some nice posts about the great experience in game

85% of the fun I derive from TES is changing it. I like to mod.

Sandbox, having fun until they got sand in their eyes.

Yeah, people just like to [censored] about things. It's the unintended consequence of the internet. People naturally want to vent when something goes wrong. People also like to argue, and the internet combines the two. Something goes wrong in their game, about which they normally would have complained about for five minutes, gone and gotten a Coke or something and cooled off, then returned to the game. Worst case scenario they'd turn the game off for the rest of the day, or two days or whatever. Nowadays they know there's a ready-made audience for their complaints, so they post it on the internet. Then somebody else and debates the point, often because what we complain about is not always an actual flaw in the game, just bad luck or a misunderstanding on the player's part. Once the complaint has been made and countered, you now have an argument going, so people's natural desire to [censored] briefly leads straight into their desire to argue and debate even the most minor of points like it's the most important thing in the world, even if it isn't something that can be factually proven one way or the other.

And boy that's annoying. People who like the game are spending more time in the game. People who dislike it get drawn to the forums to detail just how much and in what way they hate the game, so complaints outnumber praises.

For the record, I have played 70+ hour already. I love this game passionately. Destruction still needs to be fixed. Not made god like, just made viable at high levels.

You're right, enjoy the journey and not the destination.... however, if I'm riding a train with metal springs piercing the seats and water dripping from the ceiling on my journey then I'm going to complain about it.

Complacency is a bad thing when developers are making something based around what you want.

I agree with you OP. But you have to understand that some people expect a certain things here, and I'll put it as blunt as possible... They can't get past Morrowind. I, for one, am glad they didn't make a Morrowind 2.0 with Oblivion (disappointing as that game was), or a 3.0 with Skyrim. Why? Because Morrowind is Morrowind. And if you want to play it, just install it. I wanted Skyrim to be a diffrent experience, some people wanted it to be a Morrowind experience with a Skyrim coat of paint. That's pretty much narrows down all the complaints.

In the end people will have their favorites. Some will be playing Morrowind until Windows doesn't support in anymore...and even then, I'm sure they will find a way to keep playinig it. The game is that good. But I have an open mind, and I see Skyrim as it's own game. And to me it's even with Morrowind...maybe better (yea I said it). To each their own.

Amen, Grits.

Complaints hardly outnumber the praises.

The complaints here are nothing compared to the launch of "Oblivion" where arguably a selection of fans who did not receive "Morrowind II" became very upset that Bethesda had 'stabbed them in the back' (usually for not personally consulting them on how to make the game).

Here it's a lot more sane.

People dislike something and they say so and usually have a reason for it.

But they're saying how they feel rather than insisting Bethesda did something horrible to them on purpose.

Like someone said above one of the wonderful things about Elder Scrolls Games is that you can MOD them to your personal preference.

Me, I'm loving the game Bethesda created.

Azrael
The Nord with the Sword

this
negative people are always a lot more vocal
people who like the game are playing it, as for me I'm just a no-lifer who likes to lurk on forums I guess XD (doing other stuff on the comp as well, will fire up the game as soon as I'm done)

You can always get up and find a better seat.

Maybe because some people don't want to put 30 hours into a game and realize X is unbalanced? Tough concept I know, why do people complain about complainers?

Why can't people accept the concept of "Constructive Criticism" anymore?

I couldn't hammer home any further how easy it would be to actually FIX these problems with the game... it would take less time than it would for you to compain about our criticism.

Edit: nobody reads the last post

This is all well and good, enjoy the journey and all that, but when you're trying to rely on one certain skill to do damage (I think you know the one I'm talking about) then the journey gets a whole lot less enjoyable after a certain point.

I don't know whether other people feel this way, but we're complaining BECAUSE we like destruction so much, we want to be able to use it effectively and not have to phase it out as the game goes on. If nobody ever complained about anything nothing would ever change.

It's not though is it?

People obsess and convince themselves that it is... but it's not.

The game...

"Morrowind", "Oblvion" and now "Skyrim" are all designed to be completed by a variety of different characters specialising in dramatically different skills.

Az

What does that even mean, get up and find a better game? Are implying skyrim is a bad game?

Heres a better anology. You're sitting in first class seating enjoying the majestic scenery from your large panoramic window (the best in the train) but a spring pops out of the chair and pokes you in the ass. That's skyrim.



Ill be wandering around the mountains enjoying the sites, I'll stumble past a fort and some "Master Conjurer" who's clearly matched my level runs out of the fort and vaporizes me in a few strikes. At that point its sort of a ragequit situation. I suppose if you're doodling through the main quest and having a good time, that's fantastic for you, but my favorite thing to do has always been to explore, and if the game intentionally prohibits me from doing that, then I cant very well enjoy the game to it's fullest extent.

That's just me though, Im sure others have their own reason. Ive got 70 hours in the game, and having played the entire TES series, I can safely say that skyrim is among my favorites, if not my favorite all together. That's why these glaring flaws are all the more painful, because they prohibit me from enjoying the game to it's fullest extent.

Because a lot of people are rude. Frankly, I blame the internet - it has made people ridiculously impatient, the perceived anonymity makes them far ruder than they would ever be in person.

But we have rules on this forum, and people can complain constructively, civilly and whatnot, and that is fine. But a thread complaining about the complainers goes the usual route, as you can see here.

Off topic: Love your avatar, OP. I just wrapped up watching Season 4 with David Tennant.