why complain?

Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:08 pm

I recently bought this game do to the fact I heard it had a killer SP. Then I jumped on MP and noticed it had some issues, so I j jumped back on the SP which is killer by the way.

but this is my point they had a beta, fixed some issues and you still complain. Well guess what, there are other games out there that you can play, for example: THE SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIN or some of the other great titles out there, but if you want to help the situation play the MP and give your feedback. Is it really in your best interest to talk sh.i.t to the devs. I mean really I would like to see half the people complaining about these bugs go into any game company and fix these bugs as fast as every cry baby gamer wishes.

Now that is my opinion, get over your selves and enjoy the games that the devs give you. Play the single player campain and wait. everyone should know by now after the many years of online gaming that the game is going to be FUBAR for a while.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:49 am

They won't play the single player though, because according to the spoiled brats the SP is broken too.

They should just go back to CoD. Seems unless its 'generic military shooter made by talentless hacks at Treyarch' they don't wanna' know!
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:35 pm

They won't play the single player though, because according to the spoiled brats the SP is broken too.

They should just go back to CoD. Seems unless its 'generic military shooter made by talentless hacks at Treyarch' they don't wanna' know!

You said the same thing on my topic yesterday :), your both right, whats the point of moaning, why not go outside or something and leave the players who want to play the game to actually play it and enjoy themselves. this forum is just clogged up with unanswered topics about how "crap" this game is. like it or lump it, if you wanna lump it, dont post on the forum thats what i think, apart from advice to Crytek which is awesome it helps for further improvement. Nice to see some people standing up for Crytek!
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:19 am

Despite many critics i've seen here Crysis 2's Single Player component is awesome!
I've never been so hooked to an FPS campaign. :)

Sure it has issues but i think it runs fairly well.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:16 pm

WHat's OUTSIDE???? is that an expansion pack??? is there new weapons??? or maps???

how much did it cost?
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:38 am

They won't play the single player though, because according to the spoiled brats the SP is broken too.

They should just go back to CoD. Seems unless its 'generic military shooter made by talentless hacks at Treyarch' they don't wanna' know!

Whilst I agree theres bugger all we can do, and bichin and whining doesn't do much to help , I refuse point blank to stand up for devs rushing out games. Some ppl go too far in slamming crytek and the game, u go too far in defending them mate .

It really is getting to joke point where devs and publishers specifically are pushing out unfinished games on us and we are expected to sit around for weeks , maybe even months until they finish the games via patches. I'm sorry but that's wrong ! Why should we pay full price up front, if the games not finished.

After finishing the sp recently, I really enjoyed second half of game , but there is many indications that this whole game on both consoles wasn't polished properly? dodgy frame rates, ai is glitchy at times, early levels are very rough around edges , almost like they were put in to pad out game etc

Then I read an article on Eurogamer with crytekdisvussing the making of this gane, and they discuss the issues they had with ps3 , and it basically boils down to not programming to strengths of ps3. They I suggest ppl have a look at it and then read the article by irrational games on how they handling bioshock infinite. They very tech heavy, but if u understand them, the basics are crytek utilised the gpu of ps3 , far more than they should then even more criminally IMO, they admit to not even fully implementing their much vaunted global illumination lighting in console versions, it's a faked version, as they didn't have time to at Iliad the lighting on console versions. This whole game smacks of being rushed out , and not being properly optimised on ps3. They actually try defending it, by blaming ps3 hardware on many occasions, which clearly when utilised properly by devs, produces stunning results, even though it has limitations and is quirky in design.

Reading a quote by John carmack the dev of rage recently, he basically said, they were having to work harder on ps3 version, as they had to program the spu's to do many different jobs to get to sane point on where 360 was and this was time consuming, whilst 360 was easier and quicker to get results on.

I can tolerate the resolution drop , it's minor, in sp the frame rate is tolerable most the time, but the ai glitchiness is pretty unforgivable, as that's just unprofessional . I can accept the fact that on multiplatforms it cost more to get pa3 version up and running as. Well as 360 version( see irrational article where they back this up), so understand maybe they make quick choices in ports sometimes, but most devs these days lead on ps3 to get best port possible, but they didn't do this, and to have game be this glitchy and ai not upto scratch, is really just plain shoddy, as it affects both versions, as does the online issues.

Furthermore, it's a terrible advert for their engine which was supposed to be truly intercgangeable between the two systems , making ports easier, and yet it fails there too.

Anyway, rant over, and my anger at games rushed out extends to lot of games these days, not just this one, and here's the articles.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-crysis-2
http://imagequalitymatters.blogspot.com/2010/11/tech-report-irrational-talks-bioshock.html
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:59 pm

I'll tell you **** hypocrites why. I work hard for my money & I want what I paid for. I love how the low lifes of the gaming world bash CoD. All shooters are the same. Point & shoot, Point & shoot, Point & shoot.

P.S. I HATE COD

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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:14 am

Best sp? Cool, your opinion. Why do I complain? Simple, I paid my hard earned 60 bucks on it. If there is things I don't like I'm going to complain!


As for the other jackass that posted right after the op. Wtf!! Is this notion everyone has about anyone that complains being a cod player, i complain and I hate that damn game
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:17 pm

I'll tell you **** hypocrites why. I work hard for my money & I want what I paid for. I love how the low lifes of the gaming world bash CoD. All shooters are the same. Point & shoot, Point & shoot, Point & shoot.


^^^ LMAO dude...u need to relax
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:00 pm

I'll tell you **** hypocrites why. I work hard for my money & I want what I paid for. I love how the low lifes of the gaming world bash CoD. All shooters are the same. Point & shoot, Point & shoot, Point & shoot.

You had to work "hard" for your money? Really?

Is your job shoving organic material in your ass to make crap words come out your mouth?

How did you not get what you paid for?
The disc came in its neat little case didn't it?

You got what you paid for and the company makes patches for free, one on the house.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:57 pm

lets the devs fix it until then its on the shelf, has the potential to be a great game but it was bought for multiplayer not single player. Ill come back when its playable. I've posted topics to help them fix the problems but your moaning doesn't get anything fixed. What i have learned from the past few fps games is to not listen to the hype and bull reviews and not to buy a game straight away anymore, to keep an eye on the forums and then decide when to buy it
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:23 pm

Best sp? Cool, your opinion. Why do I complain? Simple, I paid my hard earned 60 bucks on it. If there is things I don't like I'm going to complain!


As for the other jackass that posted right after the op. Wtf!! Is this notion everyone has about anyone that complains being a cod player, i complain and I hate that damn game

There's complain, and there's what these forums are like. Lots of people that create topics on here to complain, do not do so constructively and just criticise Crytek. Usually lots of words are replaced by *** which framkly explains the level of intelect these individuals possess.

I wasn't saying that everyone is a CoD player though. I was talking about the CoD players who just complain about everything (which they do). And lets face it, CoD players are the ones who don't post constructive criticisms.

And as you said, you paid your money for it, so yes you have a right to complain about issues that should've been resolved before the games release. However, complaints only get anywhere if they are genuine, not simply flaming Crytek or whatever.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:31 am

I'll tell you **** hypocrites why. I work hard for my money & I want what I paid for. I love how the low lifes of the gaming world bash CoD. All shooters are the same. Point & shoot, Point & shoot, Point & shoot.

You had to work "hard" for your money? Really?

Is your job shoving organic material in your ass to make crap words come out your mouth?

How did you not get what you paid for?
The disc came in its neat little case didn't it?

You got what you paid for and the company makes patches for free, one on the house.

whilst his point and shoot comment isnt the most intelligent, his point about working hard for his money is. $60 is what he paid fora game that works as its supposed to(whether the gameplay itself is crap is another matter, and is totally subjective). Furthermore, patches arent free, or on the house, we've all paid millions of dollars for it, and they not doing it out kindness of their heart, its called customer service and is business practice. They try to ensure that by making customers happy, that customers buy their products again. You anger customers by not following up with customer service, then they dont buy ur products next time and Crytek also dont get any more contracts from EA (not something EA as publisher wants, their profits dropping cause of technical incompetency).

so a middle ground in these two extreme views is needed
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:15 pm

lets the devs fix it until then its on the shelf, has the potential to be a great game but it was bought for multiplayer not single player. Ill come back when its playable. I've posted topics to help them fix the problems but your moaning doesn't get anything fixed. What i have learned from the past few fps games is to not listen to the hype and bull reviews and not to buy a game straight away anymore, to keep an eye on the forums and then decide when to buy it

Yet we all fell for it again lol

The question is, will it be fixed before community dies, as for the cod whingers comment Hypertails made, it kinda rings true lol. they are the epitome of consumer generation and its instant gratification demands, but i think u misunderstood him, he wasnt calling everyone who moans a cod player, just saying that a large portion o the ridiculous comments on here are probably from that crowd of players(probably under 16 as well to boot).

I share your frustraions ppl about the game, but think hyper tails is simply saying pointless bit-chin wont help, and some constructive criticism enables ppl to let off steam and maybe help devs fix game . most fps games these days, if not all, have problems online in early weeks, its a sad fact, and one ppl either need to accept, or just boycott games on release , as devs will continue to do so, as thats what the internet enables them to do, patch games after release.

However, i dont share his optimism, which imo is too great. This game will die to a large extent, as ppl will leave . Its not a huge established franchise like cod , where ppl will hang around as they know the community will still be large in year ot two still, they move on and that's the end of it.

Crytek have shot themelves in foot, as any chance of a crysis 3 getting met in same way as ppl did this one, is probably gone, ppl will be wary of it, and sales wont be as big etc
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:29 am

why do people have to be so vicious with each other, afterall, these pages are for consructive criticism, not for bashing developers or for verbal attacks on other players and forum users. i mean, think about it, if you made this game and had a lot of people swearing, moaning about and saying malicious stuff about your company, would you feel enthusiastic about making patches to address issues? no, if you say otherwise you are a liar and only say it because you do not develop games etc, you buy the product, plus if it is so bad and you are annoyed by spending your 'hard earned cash' on it, then return it and get your precious money back instead of being so juvenile in your constant moaning at crytek.

if you moaners out there really hate this game, then stop playing it, seems logical enough, or why not cheer crytek on, report issues in a calm manner instead of the rabbling that the forum seems to be brimmed with now, let crytek see that there is a supportive community out there, perhaps then they will feel more motivated and determined to deal with every issue we players find.

i have crysis 2, i think it is great, single player was amazing, very fun and fantastic story.

multiplayer does have issues, every now and then i do get the opportunity to play in a game that seems to run very well, but of course there are problems, so, i set the game aside until the problems are dealt with, i want to enjoy the full potential of this game, not slate it and degrade crytek, who are trying their best to fix the game up for all of us to enjoy.

and fingers crossed the problems with lag, hit detection etc will be fixed very soon.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:26 pm

I'll tell you **** hypocrites why. I work hard for my money & I want what I paid for. I love how the low lifes of the gaming world bash CoD. All shooters are the same. Point & shoot, Point & shoot, Point & shoot.


^^^ LMAO dude...u need to relax

Lmfao, yes im mad brah lol
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:40 pm

We complain because we don't settle for second place. Look at the PC version.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:45 pm

Best sp? Cool, your opinion. Why do I complain? Simple, I paid my hard earned 60 bucks on it. If there is things I don't like I'm going to complain!


As for the other jackass that posted right after the op. Wtf!! Is this notion everyone has about anyone that complains being a cod player, i complain and I hate that damn game

There's complain, and there's what these forums are like. Lots of people that create topics on here to complain, do not do so constructively and just criticise Crytek. Usually lots of words are replaced by *** which framkly explains the level of intelect these individuals possess.

I wasn't saying that everyone is a CoD player though. I was talking about the CoD players who just complain about everything (which they do). And lets face it, CoD players are the ones who don't post constructive criticisms.

And as you said, you paid your money for it, so yes you have a right to complain about issues that should've been resolved before the games release. However, complaints only get anywhere if they are genuine, not simply flaming Crytek or whatever.

Definitely, my very first post was saying something on how we must give constructive criticism. But, crytek's lack of at least decent communication is nowhere to be seen. That really frustrates me as a consumer and gamer
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:34 am

why do people have to be so vicious with each other, afterall, these pages are for consructive criticism, not for bashing developers or for verbal attacks on other players and forum users. i mean, think about it, if you made this game and had a lot of people swearing, moaning about and saying malicious stuff about your company, would you feel enthusiastic about making patches to address issues? no, if you say otherwise you are a liar and only say it because you do not develop games etc, you buy the product, plus if it is so bad and you are annoyed by spending your 'hard earned cash' on it, then return it and get your precious money back instead of being so juvenile in your constant moaning at crytek.

if you moaners out there really hate this game, then stop playing it, seems logical enough, or why not cheer crytek on, report issues in a calm manner instead of the rabbling that the forum seems to be brimmed with now, let crytek see that there is a supportive community out there, perhaps then they will feel more motivated and determined to deal with every issue we players find.

i have crysis 2, i think it is great, single player was amazing, very fun and fantastic story.

multiplayer does have issues, every now and then i do get the opportunity to play in a game that seems to run very well, but of course there are problems, so, i set the game aside until the problems are dealt with, i want to enjoy the full potential of this game, not slate it and degrade crytek, who are trying their best to fix the game up for all of us to enjoy.

and fingers crossed the problems with lag, hit detection etc will be fixed very soon.

u make some valid points, but at same time u have to understand ppl have good reason to be frustrated and angry, and they shouldnt have to be moaning about things like online mp issues in same degree as they have had to. Its the devs responsibility to put out a game that works, and the game was clearly rushed out on all formats.

unfortunately mot ppl wont get their hard earned money back, they will get less than what they paid or the game, which is unfair when game isnt working as sold to consumers.

i can see both sides of arguments. and think the middle ground is best route. Not overly bichin and moaninng, but not going "well done crytekk, ur so wonderful, we love u blah blah, fix it when ur ready" as thats nonsense too, we as gamers have to take a stand against this kind of business model thats becoming prevalent in gaming, otherwise they will continue to abuse us in this fashion.

I agree ppl are ridiculously horrible to each other on these forums, sometimes its because ppl arent having problems others are having and get offended that someone criticises their new favourite "toy", whilst others gets angry that other ppl are telling them, they dont have problems and that they should be grateful for the wonderful game crytek have made, when in reality for them, its far from wonderful, as they having issues, and others, its just they plain morons, and i have lost my rag with few too, as they spout constant bs and infuraite other ppl with their ridiculous comments.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:42 pm

why do people have to be so vicious with each other, afterall, these pages are for consructive criticism, not for bashing developers or for verbal attacks on other players and forum users. i mean, think about it, if you made this game and had a lot of people swearing, moaning about and saying malicious stuff about your company, would you feel enthusiastic about making patches to address issues? no, if you say otherwise you are a liar and only say it because you do not develop games etc, you buy the product, plus if it is so bad and you are annoyed by spending your 'hard earned cash' on it, then return it and get your precious money back instead of being so juvenile in your constant moaning at crytek.

if you moaners out there really hate this game, then stop playing it, seems logical enough, or why not cheer crytek on, report issues in a calm manner instead of the rabbling that the forum seems to be brimmed with now, let crytek see that there is a supportive community out there, perhaps then they will feel more motivated and determined to deal with every issue we players find.

i have crysis 2, i think it is great, single player was amazing, very fun and fantastic story.

multiplayer does have issues, every now and then i do get the opportunity to play in a game that seems to run very well, but of course there are problems, so, i set the game aside until the problems are dealt with, i want to enjoy the full potential of this game, not slate it and degrade crytek, who are trying their best to fix the game up for all of us to enjoy.

and fingers crossed the problems with lag, hit detection etc will be fixed very soon.

u make some valid points, but at same time u have to understand ppl have good reason to be frustrated and angry, and they shouldnt have to be moaning about things like online mp issues in same degree as they have had to. Its the devs responsibility to put out a game that works, and the game was clearly rushed out on all formats.

unfortunately mot ppl wont get their hard earned money back, they will get less than what they paid or the game, which is unfair when game isnt working as sold to consumers.

i can see both sides of arguments. and think the middle ground is best route. Not overly bichin and moaninng, but not going "well done crytekk, ur so wonderful, we love u blah blah, fix it when ur ready" as thats nonsense too, we as gamers have to take a stand against this kind of business model thats becoming prevalent in gaming, otherwise they will continue to abuse us in this fashion.

I agree ppl are ridiculously horrible to each other on these forums, sometimes its because ppl arent having problems others are having and get offended that someone criticises their new favourite "toy", whilst others gets angry that other ppl are telling them, they dont have problems and that they should be grateful for the wonderful game crytek have made, when in reality for them, its far from wonderful, as they having issues, and others, its just they plain morons, and i have lost my rag with few too, as they spout constant bs and infuraite other ppl with their ridiculous comments.

i pretty much agree with everything you said there, when i said 'cheer crytek on' i didn't mean overly, i meant as well as contributing a little criticism here and there, why not include some good points about the game and perhaps suggest ways to further improve them.

i think the multiplayer has great potential to be a gaming sensation, something to rival the call of duty multiplayer, lets face facts, call of duty is a tyrant and sort of rules the online community, and to admit it, i enjoy black ops very much, but i would like to see a game that could rival it, i think crysis 2 could be that game because it is different in the approach to the shooter genre, incorporating both firepower and stealth gameplay and of course the nanosuit modules to tweak your performance online, it is just the gaming issues need to rectified first, then crysis 2 will be unleashed.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:22 pm

I bought this game strictly for multiplayer. I played Xbox and PS3 beta. There were definitely connection issues. The PS3 beta lasted 2 days. They knew there were some issues with the MP. This is a big name company that should have known how to make a good MP experience. If this was a no name company, it wouldn't be a big deal. Crytek isn't really posting anything to the gamers about what they are fixing. We are being kept in the dark. It seems like they are focused more on PC than anything else. I don't expect perfection but I expected a better MP experience. EA and Crytek together should have known how to have a good MP game. I like the concept and gameplay. Its best when you are the host. The lag can be so frustrating at times that the game is unplayable. Right now the biggest MP issues is connection. I was hoping there would be dedicated servers in this game because it was EA. The release should have been delayed rather than try to fix on the fly.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:08 pm

I bought this game strictly for multiplayer. I played Xbox and PS3 beta. There were definitely connection issues. The PS3 beta lasted 2 days. They knew there were some issues with the MP. This is a big name company that should have known how to make a good MP experience. If this was a no name company, it wouldn't be a big deal. Crytek isn't really posting anything to the gamers about what they are fixing. We are being kept in the dark. It seems like they are focused more on PC than anything else. I don't expect perfection but I expected a better MP experience. EA and Crytek together should have known how to have a good MP game. I like the concept and gameplay. Its best when you are the host. The lag can be so frustrating at times that the game is unplayable. Right now the biggest MP issues is connection. I was hoping there would be dedicated servers in this game because it was EA. The release should have been delayed rather than try to fix on the fly.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Another post well said...
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:13 pm

I bought this game strictly for multiplayer. I played Xbox and PS3 beta. There were definitely connection issues. The PS3 beta lasted 2 days. They knew there were some issues with the MP. This is a big name company that should have known how to make a good MP experience. If this was a no name company, it wouldn't be a big deal. Crytek isn't really posting anything to the gamers about what they are fixing. We are being kept in the dark. It seems like they are focused more on PC than anything else. I don't expect perfection but I expected a better MP experience. EA and Crytek together should have known how to have a good MP game. I like the concept and gameplay. Its best when you are the host. The lag can be so frustrating at times that the game is unplayable. Right now the biggest MP issues is connection. I was hoping there would be dedicated servers in this game because it was EA. The release should have been delayed rather than try to fix on the fly.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.


whilst agree with u about most things, its little things that have no basis in reality like u claiming that crytek are focusing on pc gamers , that drives me mad.

mate the game is f***ed on mp on pc, 360 and ps3 too. they nothing but fair to us all lol

u should see how much pc gamers screwed about mp, they couldnt get online most the time at all.

so dont feel hard done by, they made sure mp was botched on all formats fair and square lol
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:52 pm

Well most of the stuff on the home page and forum main page is PC stuff. I have clicked on the latest update links and the majority of them are PC it seems. I know PC players have the most forum posts. It appears to me that PC is getting the most support, albeit that everyone is having problems. Crytek should have focused on PC first, then done game for console. It probably isn't totally their fault either, since no one knows how EA may have pressured Crytek to make this game on consoles. Crytek appears as if they aren't addressing the community.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:38 pm

Well most of the stuff on the home page and forum main page is PC stuff. I have clicked on the latest update links and the majority of them are PC it seems. I know PC players have the most forum posts. It appears to me that PC is getting the most support, albeit that everyone is having problems. Crytek should have focused on PC first, then done game for console. It probably isn't totally their fault either, since no one knows how EA may have pressured Crytek to make this game on consoles. Crytek appears as if they aren't addressing the community.

U should see the uproar lot of pc owners felt about the way their version was effectively downgraded to accommodate console versions( even though it's still better than console versions) and was far Less open world than crysis 1, which really upset the fans of original crysis , plus the lack of dx11 support out the box.

Tbh crytek made their name in pc world, I'd imagine they trying to repair their relationship with pc community after they well and truly upset them.

We all got shafted mate lol
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