Why the EnglishAmerican English mix?

Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:46 am

Bit of a trivial question but it nags me. Why do Bethesda mix their spelling of Grey?
The subtitles have Gray Quarter and the Greybeards!
Just curious :wacko: .
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Nikki Morse
 
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:00 pm

It's simply another form of discrimination against the dunmer...let's face it, if you were a Nord, would you p*ss off the greybeards?

Good pick though, I'd probably suggest it's because different people worked on different parts...lucky for everyone else that Australians didn't do the naming or voice over dialogues:

"Arrrr...G'day mate...you ave done us a great service, cobber...I award youse with the title of Thane...chicks will love ya, and the pubs will give ya free ale! Cracker, eh? You's just gotta talk to me mate the steward here, and e'll set ya's up with a nice little digs in town, for a fair price in coin though, eh...can't have youse ripping me off. Oi, and 'ere's a bl**dy good axe from me own private stash...you carry that round and none of me cops will f*** with ya. Righto? Good stuff, bonza work....Oh, and you can 'av this shiela Lydia...she's a bit of a whiner, but not too crook on the eye and she swings a mean bat in a stoush. Onya matey..."
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:51 pm

Different folks wrote different bits.
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:59 pm

It's simply another form of discrimination against the dunmer...let's face it, if you were a Nord, would you p*ss off the greybeards?

Good pick though, I'd probably suggest it's because different people worked on different parts...lucky for everyone else that Australians didn't do the naming or voice over dialogues:

"Arrrr...G'day mate...you ave done us a great service, cobber...I award youse with the title of Thane...chicks will love ya, and the pubs will give ya free ale! Cracker, eh? You's just gotta talk to me mate the steward here, and e'll set ya's up with a nice little digs in town, for a fair price in coin though, eh...can't have youse ripping me off. Oi, and 'ere's a bl**dy good axe from me own private stash...you carry that round and none of me cops will f*** with ya. Righto? Good stuff, bonza work....Oh, and you can 'av this shiela Lydia...she's a bit of a whiner, but not too crook on the eye and she swings a mean bat in a stoush. Onya matey..."

Brilliant :rofl: !!
But don't forget we do have that awful Aussie/Cockney voice for some of the grey elves!('Ello Meary Poppuns!)
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:06 pm

"Arrrr...G'day mate...you ave done us a great service, cobber...I award youse with the title of Thane...chicks will love ya, and the pubs will give ya free ale! Cracker, eh? You's just gotta talk to me mate the steward here, and e'll set ya's up with a nice little digs in town, for a fair price in coin though, eh...can't have youse ripping me off. Oi, and 'ere's a bl**dy good axe from me own private stash...you carry that round and none of me cops will f*** with ya. Righto? Good stuff, bonza work....Oh, and you can 'av this shiela Lydia...she's a bit of a whiner, but not too crook on the eye and she swings a mean bat in a stoush. Onya matey..."

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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:50 am

It's simply another form of discrimination against the dunmer...let's face it, if you were a Nord, would you p*ss off the greybeards?

Good pick though, I'd probably suggest it's because different people worked on different parts...lucky for everyone else that Australians didn't do the naming or voice over dialogues:

"Arrrr...G'day mate...you ave done us a great service, cobber...I award youse with the title of Thane...chicks will love ya, and the pubs will give ya free ale! Cracker, eh? You's just gotta talk to me mate the steward here, and e'll set ya's up with a nice little digs in town, for a fair price in coin though, eh...can't have youse ripping me off. Oi, and 'ere's a bl**dy good axe from me own private stash...you carry that round and none of me cops will f*** with ya. Righto? Good stuff, bonza work....Oh, and you can 'av this shiela Lydia...she's a bit of a whiner, but not too crook on the eye and she swings a mean bat in a stoush. Onya matey..."

I'm Australian and you do realise that about 99% of Australians don't actually speak like that
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:50 am

According to his profile, he is as well, so probably - yes. ;)
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:16 pm

It's simply another form of discrimination against the dunmer...let's face it, if you were a Nord, would you p*ss off the greybeards?

Good pick though, I'd probably suggest it's because different people worked on different parts...lucky for everyone else that Australians didn't do the naming or voice over dialogues:

"Arrrr...G'day mate...you ave done us a great service, cobber...I award youse with the title of Thane...chicks will love ya, and the pubs will give ya free ale! Cracker, eh? You's just gotta talk to me mate the steward here, and e'll set ya's up with a nice little digs in town, for a fair price in coin though, eh...can't have youse ripping me off. Oi, and 'ere's a bl**dy good axe from me own private stash...you carry that round and none of me cops will f*** with ya. Righto? Good stuff, bonza work....Oh, and you can 'av this shiela Lydia...she's a bit of a whiner, but not too crook on the eye and she swings a mean bat in a stoush. Onya matey..."


Most of the Dunmer voices are a bit 'cor-blimey-stone-the-crows-Mary-Poppins, though. I think they're supposed to sound Cockney, but in reality sound pretty much Australian in the same way dike Van Dyke always did... :)
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:05 pm

Ah didn't notice that sorry man but I think most of us Australians get pretty annoyed with how the rest of the
World thinks we speak
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:44 am



I'm Australian and you do realise that about 99% of Australians don't actually speak like that


That would be the 99% that don't live in North Queensland, South Aus or the NT :)
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:45 am

Ah didn't notice that sorry man but I think most of us Australians get pretty annoyed with how the rest of the
World thinks we speak
As a Kiwi, I know how and why your people mangle the English language, and I still wouldn't allow my daughter to marry your son, but I think Delvin Mallory is cool!
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:44 am

I'm Australian and you do realise that about 99% of Australians don't actually speak like that
I'm an American and you do realize that about 99% of Americans don't think Australians speak like that, even with those Dundee movies. ;)

But as for the OP: "grey" and "gray" are both correct spellings.

I've heard, from those not born under the tongue, English is the most difficult language to learn. So difficult, most who speak it do so without realizing they're doing it wrong. :D
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:33 am

I've heard, from those not born under the tongue, English is the most difficult language to learn. So difficult, most who speak it do so without realizing they're doing it wrong. :D

So very true, I remember my German teacher for my final yrs of secondary school. She was Spanish but taught her native language as well as German and french. We were always correcting her english, not saying she wasn't fluent its just minor mistakes
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:27 am

I'm an American and you do realize that about 99% of Americans don't think Australians speak like that, even with those Dundee movies. :wink:

But as for the OP: "grey" and "gray" are both correct spellings.

I've heard, from those not born under the tongue, English is the most difficult language to learn. So difficult, most who speak it do so without realizing they're doing it wrong. :biggrin:

English is more than likely up there with the worst of them but languages like Chinese, Finnish or Russian are all better candidates for most difficult language to learn.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:05 am


I've heard, from those not born under the tongue, English is the most difficult language to learn. So difficult, most who speak it do so without realizing they're doing it wrong. :D

Funny, the exact same thing is said here in Sweden about Swedish :P
But English IS hard. It's pretty easy to get a general grasp of it, at least if you live in a country where dubbing is something they only do to kid's movies, but when it comes to details... Especially prepositions, they are a real PITA for me. Possibly because both English and Swedish seem completely illogical sometimes. >.<
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:13 pm

I've studied both English and French, and thought French was much harder to learn. Not the words but grammar and pronunciation.
Btw, I like the "dunmer dialect".
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:45 pm

English is more than likely up there with the worst of them but languages like Chinese, Finish or Russian are all better candidates for most difficult language to learn.

It is actually "Finnish" with a double n (or "suomi" in FInnish) :smile:. And by the way, Russian is in the same Indo-European language family as English, French, German, or Swedish (plus many others, including even Persian, but not Finnish), which all seem to be to some extent just different variants of each other, from the Finnish perspective, that is.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:53 am

I've studied both English and French, and thought French was much harder to learn. Not the words but grammar and pronunciation.
Btw, I like the "dunmer dialect".

French is terrible. Lots of rules and then a million exceptions to them. :wallbash: German also has lots of rules, but at least the rules apply.
I made an attempt to learn Ancient Greek once. That was ... interesting. Well, at least I know the alphabet now...
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:22 pm

It is actually "Finnish" with a double n (or "suomi" in FInnish) :smile:. And by the way, Russian is in the same Indo-European language family as English, French, or German (plus many others, including even Persian), which all seem to be to some extent just different variants of each other, from the Finnish perspective, that is.

I know. That's what I get for not proofreading my post before hitting the button. :P

Personally, I think the only use the Indo-European designation has is for historical purposes and it's better to discuss the specific branches (French - Romance, English - Germanic, Russian - Slavic etc). There's quite a large difference between them as is, IMO.
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:02 pm

German also has lots of rules, but at least the rules apply.

They do? I never realized that. :P :D
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:33 pm

We were always correcting her english, not saying she wasn't fluent its just minor mistakes

We are all fluent in our own mistakes. A good point about language accents, wonder if Skyrim has Eastern versions in their own languages.... but having said that, I would never want have a cockney rhyming-slang version, or anything other than a kind of neutral English/American sound... I can accept spelling and grammar mistakes.

The subtitles have Gray Quarter and the Greybeards!
The subtitles have Grey Quarter and the Greybeards!

Put both of those in a Microsoft Works Word Processor… and they are both correct!!
So they don’t know either.
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Post » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:10 am

They do? I never realized that. :tongue: :biggrin:

Learning German grammar is something I hope I'll never have to do again :biggrin:
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Post » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:14 pm

At the end of the day 'Grey' is the true spelling in English. 'Gray' is American English, with it's many little quirks on the language. If this wa a British game then it would be considered a spelling mistake. But Skyrim is not a British game.

It's the same with 'Armour' being spelled as 'Armor'. Is it a big deal? Not really. It's pronounced the same. :)
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