Hi, I'm new to the forum and I hope this is the first of many posts.

Well, to topic, it has always bugged me that you need 3 Elder Scrolls and even though I have completed several times the Dawnguard main quest with both sides I can only remember using 2 of them, the one Serana has (the Sun one?) that you give to Dexion and then he tells you that the prophecy continues in more Scrolls but you only use 1 more (the Blood one from Valerica that you yourself read) that reveals you the location of the bow and after that you don't use them again.

So, in Dawnguard, why do you need the Dragon Scroll (the one you get in the ruins)?

Greetings.

PD: I may have messed with the Scrolls names but it boils down to telling that you need 3 Scrolls but you ever use 2.

PD2: Sorry for any mistakes (English is not my mother tongue (Spanish is)).

Each scroll is a unique item that tells of what will be and what may be.

The Dragon Scroll is linked to the main quest of Skyrim, where you learn the Dragonrend shout. It's also linked to two side quests, one from Dawnguard (Seeking Disclosure) and the one linked to the Daedric Prince, Hermaeus Mora (Discerning the Transmutane.)

In Dawnguard, it's part of the quest where you learn how to read the Elder Scrolls yourself.

Thanks for the answer, but I have played through the main quest several times and I do understand what the Dragon Scroll is needed for but in the Dawnguard main quest they ask you to retrieve it (whether in the ruins or buying it back) but you never use it in the quest line, Dexion becomes blind after reading the first scroll so he can't read anymore and he instructs you how to read the other one (that reveals the location).

As I have said, the reading of the ES it's something that Dexion teaches you, not the Scroll.

It's a gameplay thing.

Story-wise, both scrolls contain half of the location of Auriel's Bow- the Dragon Scroll has the first half, and the Blood Scroll has the second half. Dexion goes blind reading the first scroll (the Dragon Scroll) so while he is able to give that half of the location, you still need to read the Blood Scroll yourself to get the second half of the location.

Make sense now?

Maybe I have messed with the ES names but as you have said you use 2 ES but you collect 3 of them (Serana's, Valerica's and the one you buy back/get in a dungeon).

If I recall correctly the ES Serana has is the Sun one that needs Dexion to be read, then he discovers that only half the prophecy is there and that you need to retrieve more ES (I have looked in the mision log), the dragon one (dungeon/bought back) and the Blood one in the Soul Cairn. When you have them you discover Dexion has gone blind and he explains that there is a method to read the ES but when you get to the ancestors cave you only read the blood one and the dragon one is never used.

I was wondering this too, they ask you to get the third scroll, but it's not used at all during the questline from what I remember.

Watch the animation after you open the first scroll in Ancestor Glade. After that first scroll is opened, you will see animations for two more scrolls being opened. It is apparent that you open all three scrolls during your reading of the prophecy.

Whether that makes sense or not (and the game doesn't explain very well what the dragon scroll might have to with the prophecy) you still end up reading all three scrolls.

Good point. I never thought about it like that. I always thought he kept opening the same scroll and every time the image became stronger. The way you explain it, where all three scrolls are used make MUCH more sense.

That's a possibility that I thought it could be, I guess the developers didn't want to make you waste time doing the reading action for every Scroll so they put it into one animation, before that I thought that the "semi-blindness" caused by reading the ES made you open the same one several times, but I think I will stick with the explanation of having just an action to read the ES.

Greetings.

Oh, that does make sense.
I thought that he just read the same scroll as well.

I thought you needed all three to work out the location of Auriel Bow.

I honestly think that part of the storyline is stupid. For three specific scrolls to be part of a prophecy is stupid, not to mention just one. Each reader of an elder scroll sees something different. There isn't anything really written on the pages. Maybe they function differently than the others, but lore-wise, that part of the main quest doesn't really make sense.

Well, another stupid thing is that one of the books you are given states that people with some knowledge but with no preparation become blind after being given information from the scrolls but you read three in a straight succession (and we have to take into account a fourth reading from the main quest) but after all you are the archmage-vampirelord/werewolf-darkbrotherhoodlisterner-companionsharbinger-thievesguildheadmaster-chosenbythegods-wearingfullupgradedandenchanteddaedricarmoranddragonboneweapons-destroyerofarmies-abletoraisethedead-wielderofthemostpowerfullmagic-dragonsandcreaturesandundeadsummoner-ultrarich-dragonborn and you are also a bard so I guess normal rules don't quite apply.

Its the moths, silly. Without the moths you would surely have gone blind AND stark raving mad.

And the dragon scroll used to learn the dragonrend shout? Summoned invisible moths?

Aside from that, if the moths could make you read three scrolls without drawbacks, Dexion (and many subjects with knowledge but no preparation) and Septimus went blind and mad for the lulz?

And the worst is that is the same Dexion that tells you how to read with moths that reads them without any preparations.

Hello, I'm Dexion and I'm Septimus and this is [censored], today we're gonna read Scrolls without moths.

Have you read that scroll someplace besides the time wound? It does cause temporary blindness. The time wound is special. Maybe it is composed of invisible moths!

It was probably a game mechanic that required the Dragon scroll or it would break something else in the game.

Dexion says he need all three Elder Scrolls in order for him to read the whole prophecy. I guess they just want to make Dawnguard questline tie to the main questline.

Well I have a bug, where I am in the glade and have all the moths, yet when I go to read the Blood Scroll in the light, nothing happens. And yes, I even tryed several times, ran around to see if I needed more moths, bubkiss, I get nothing, im at a stand still with my first Dawngaurd play through. I am on the PC and moded, went as far to uninstall and reinstall game and mods to see if it was a scripting ish that got boogerd up. No luck.

Any Ideas?

Read all of them in succession, if I remember correctly.