Hi guys,
Ive gotten pretty far in New Vgeas and am currently starting For the Republic Part 2. As some of you know the quest entales meeting Papa Khan and convincing him to join the forces of the NCR (which I want) instead of staying with Caeser. The problem now is that I had previously asked Papa about the NCR while I was doing Wildcard and now he won't talk to me about it. To make matters a bit worse i've talked to Papa's right hand man (i forget his name), and initiated the quest Oh My Papa but the NCR general lady does not have any new dialogue options about the Khans joining with the NCR. Any advice as to how to solve the bug or how to finish the quest would be great.
Thanks in advance!

Bump.

Anyone else even run into the problem?

Bump 2.

Some muddling arround shows that I guess making the Khans like me more may do somthing. Right now I am 'Villified'. Anyone know any ways to make them like me more?

Bump 3.

Guess I am on my own for this one. :mellow:

So has Regis already talk to you about swaying Papa Khan's opinion??

Oh,
Yes he kinda has in that he mentions that Papa's mind is posioned by hatred and that he doesn't really mind the NCR. Oh My Papa began but he won't tell me anything else and I can't progress any further.

I have this same problem, but I posted it in the bug section. I haven't seen any solutions yet.

break into the legion ambassadors room, steal his diary .. then talk to papa..

and yeah, it probably doesnt help if you're vilified...

Looks like were in the same barrel then...



Yeah I looked into that.. No new dialogue came up. If no sollutions are found by the end of tomorrow I guess I'll have to go kill 'em all (and let god sort 'em out). Not my style though.

hey guys,
im having an enormous amount of trouble with this quest chain, too.

the first time i approached the quest i talked to papa before anyone else. that apparently kills the quest outright. you can talk to regis and get the talk-to-moore update afterwards, but she doesnt have any new dialogue options. if you cant or dont want to reload, your only option is to kill him.

the second time i read up on the guide, which says you should talk to karl first. so i did that and even though i had "for the republic, 2", i was put on the questrail that normally is set in motion when you are NOT sent by moore. very well, now i had to convince the four advisors, no problems there. did that, stole the journal from karl and showed it to papa (if you go for the speech check route, quest bugs too. dont!).
now you can talk to papa about breaking his allegance with caesar, but he's concerned about his legacy. you can either pass a 75 speech check or go a little detour, either way, the result is papa wants to pack up camp. now, however, you can talk to regis again and get the update to talk to moore. i figured all that stuff finally triggered her to respond to this development, but no dice. you can still only tell her the khans are "destroyed".

maybe someone who didnt have any problems with this quest can post exactly what he did? any help would be greatly appreciated.

ah, im villified too (merciful thug), if that matters somehow

edit: also, this would be better placed in the bug forum

edit2: ok, after randomly trying different combinations of actions and dialogue choices i have discovered a ...workaround. do the quest up onto the point where you are asked to check back with moore. then assassinate papa, talk to regis and voila, you can tell moore the khans are on ncr side. its not pretty, but it works.

Thanks teQy, I am glad someone got to the heart of the matter (not to say that everyone else wasn't helpful too).
I tink I can finish this off myself now that I know all of this information but if anyone else is having problems with the quest then I have no problems with them posting here.

On another note I do beleieve this post should be moved to the Bugs section if there any any further problems or explinations.