Will the empire ever rebel against the aldmeri dominion?

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:04 am

Is it at all possible for the empire to go against the aldmeri dominion? As people who have fought on the side of the storm cloaks would know, Ulfric despises the thalmor and wants to fight against them, which for some is the driving factor behind whose side they choose in the civil war. However is there a chance that the empire will ever fight back?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:05 am

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Tullius said they are just about ready to wage war against the Dominion after you beat the Legion storyline. This would presumably include repealing the White-Gold Concordat treaty and defending Southern Cyrodiil against any Dominion invasion forces.

Rebel is the wrong word to use though, The Empire lost the war and was forced to accept pretty ugly peace terms as a consequence, a better wording would be the nullification of the White-Gold concordat. Rebel to me at least implies that the Empire is somehow apart of the Dominion.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:05 am

I'm not much of a vocabulary man myself, however your clarification is appreciated. My question is though would they ever fight back? Is there any chance of them restarting the war, or some way to rid themselves of the aldmeri?

Regarding your spoiler, even though he says that, would he actually do it, or is it just tough talk, with no means or actions to back it up?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:34 am

I would say that they would because with the nords back on there side wouldnt they be at full strength again?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:34 am

I'm not much of a vocabulary man myself, however your clarification is appreciated. My question is though would they ever fight back? Is there any chance of them restarting the war, or some way to rid themselves of the aldmeri?

Regarding your spoiler, even though he says that, would he actually do it, or is it just tough talk, with no means or actions to back it up?

Sorry, I normally don't nitpick like that, it's just a bit of a Stormcloak talking point to imply the Empire is under the rule of the Dominion.


They do plan to fight back, but the Empire's position is considerably weaker than at the beginning of the Great War and they still lost- even though we know now that the Dominion lacked the strength to actually gain victory if the Empire had just hung on for a few more months. Skyrim is taking a serious toll, many skilled warriors died fighting each other rather than the Dominion and this has caused significant discontent within the province. Hammerfell is another question, the Empire abandoned them because they refused to give a portion of their land to the Dominion as a term of the peace demanded. They did this to maintain peace, but in the end they still renounced Hammerfell as a province. The Redguards would be under no obligation to help the Empire in the coming war, and I can't say i blame them.


The Dominion suffered losses too, the Thalmor represent their elite corps and are often slain by Imperials and Stormcloaks alike in ambushes, as well wild animals and climate. Combined with the irreplaceable loss of older and more skilled warriors who age hundreds of years in the Great War and the destruction of their armies in Hammerfell, its likely they suffered an even bigger setback than the Empire did. A lot rides on Skyrim, if the stormcloaks win the Empire really doesn't stand a chance as they would revoke Imperial access in Skyrim and isolate Highrock which would be an easy target for the far superior Aldmeri fleets. It would also isolate Skyrim from the Empire and in its weakened state has no hope of resisting a sustained Dominion invasion.

Some people say that Elven races are biologically unable to reproduce at the same rates as Human races, and there is evidence to support this. However don't belive it for the evidence I've found. It is worth an argument to say the Empire can sustain a lot more damage in manpower than the Dominion can and still replace them at a higher ratio than the Dominion.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:34 am

I would say that they would because with the nords back on there side wouldnt they be at full strength again?
Well they wouldn't be at full strength without the redguards but they wouldn't be terrible.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:23 am

I would say that they would because with the nords back on there side wouldnt they be at full strength again?
You have to remember though some of the Nordstrom morale may be a bit down if you were to choose to fight for the imperials seeing as their rebellion would be diminished at the conclusion of the war. Some nords may not be willing to fight for the imperials if they are too caught up in some sort of petty pride, the actual true sons of Skyrim however would aid the imperials seeing as they could fight the aldmeri and gain their independence
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:58 pm



Sorry, I normally don't nitpick like that, it's just a bit of a Stormcloak talking point to imply the Empire is under the rule of the Dominion.

Its okay I will admit I play generally as a storm cloak more than I do as an imperial however I posted this with an open mind. I am quite curious to see the logic behind people who fought for the empire. I'm divided on the two sides and would like to know more about the empire and you guys are the richest source of knowledge so I came to you.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:30 am

Sorry, I normally don't nitpick like that, it's just a bit of a Stormcloak talking point to imply the Empire is under the rule of the Dominion.


They do plan to fight back, but the Empire's position is considerably weaker than at the beginning of the Great War and they still lost- even though we know now that the Dominion lacked the strength to actually gain victory if the Empire had just hung on for a few more months. Skyrim is taking a serious toll, many skilled warriors died fighting each other rather than the Dominion and this has caused significant discontent within the province. Hammerfell is another question, the Empire abandoned them because they refused to give a portion of their land to the Dominion as a term of the peace demanded. They did this to maintain peace, but in the end they still renounced Hammerfell as a province. The Redguards would be under no obligation to help the Empire in the coming war, and I can't say i blame them.


The Dominion suffered losses too, the Thalmor represent their elite corps and are often slain by Imperials and Stormcloaks alike in ambushes, as well wild animals and climate. Combined with the irreplaceable loss of older and more skilled warriors who age hundreds of years in the Great War and the destruction of their armies in Hammerfell, its likely they suffered an even bigger setback than the Empire did. A lot rides on Skyrim, if the stormcloaks win the Empire really doesn't stand a chance as they would revoke Imperial access in Skyrim and isolate Highrock which would be an easy target for the far superior Aldmeri fleets. It would also isolate Skyrim from the Empire and in its weakened state has no hope of resisting a sustained Dominion invasion.

Some people say that Elven races are biologically unable to reproduce at the same rates as Human races, and there is evidence to support this. However don't belive it for the evidence I've found. It is worth an argument to say the Empire can sustain a lot more damage in manpower than the Dominion can and still replace them at a higher ratio than the Dominion.
So according to you it would be hard, but there is a chance that the empire could fight back, and possibly succeed in their fight against the aldmeri dominion?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:19 am

Wold love to see this in a DLC, leading the Empire against the Dominion. (Perhaps they could work out a way of doing it even if you chose Stormcloaks, that they discuss peace and work together etc to fight the Dominon)
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:38 am

So according to you it would be hard, but there is a chance that the empire could fight back, and possibly succeed in their fight against the aldmeri dominion?


I think so, but we only have speculation based on a few people and sources to go on. I doubt the Empire would be planning war if they didn't think they could win, and even if they didn't the domestic situation can't last much longer under the insulting peace terms from 30 years ago.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:11 am

Or the empire recruits chuck norris, with him and the drangonborn you would be unstoppable
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:24 am

I hope they will, in the next game or in DLC
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:52 am

Its no secret the empire is under control of the Dominion that is simple fact.
I foresee the empire rising up against the empire in the future yes. In order to do that they will need a strong figurehead and that is not Ulfric or Tullius we need somebody new somebody everybody can join under one banner. Even then that might not be enough the last time Tiber Septim himself needed the Numidium to destroy to destroy them and he was a dragonborn as well.
We will have to see if our character as dragonborn can gain a powerful weapon like that maybe a throng of dragons maybe.
I hope the Thalmor is explored in a future expansion pack that has them get close to their end game of shattering the Mundas but have the dragonborn thwart them that would make for an interesting expansion pack.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:34 am

Tiber Septim may be badazz but id like to see him go toe to toe with alduin
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:53 am

I like to think that whichever side you choose to go with would eventually fight the Thalmor, The Stormcloaks hate them anyway and want to fight them and it seems the Empire is just playing along with the Thalmor until they think the time is right to fight back, either way I hope those damn elves get it!
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