After completing the game once, and i am half way through completing it again (both helping Yes Man and NCR), I have noticed Yes Man could so easily be evil and ruin everything. Examples:

• When you goto the 38 with Yes Man after killing Mr House, you hand over the chip. Opportunity to be evil number 1 arises, he could take the chip, upgrade himself and kill you.
  
• After the battle to Hoover dam, right at the end, he says "I'm just going to change myself so i can make my own decisions" or something like that. Opportunity to be evil number 2 arises, he could take over the 38 and tell all the securitrons to take over the world.
  
• Also, the fact that Benny programmed him, he could of been working for him all along...

Am I the only one who thinks this? Are there any more examples?

Haha sorry but wrong logic. He's called Yes Man because he can't say no, he could ruin it all I guess but if you tell him too fix it and obey you he HAS to do it

Names dont have anything to do with it, your called Baked, but I doubt you've ever been in an oven!

At the end he says he figured out a way to change his programming and be more aggressive. This could mean he ends the yes man program. He did say it would take years but he has time. So maybe a future where robots rule who knows it never goes into detail. Wish it did though.

He's secretly Benny's version of Fisto.
Why'd you think he named him Yes Man. :hubbahubba:

nah, the writers wouldn't do that

They included a six-robot named Fisto and a a female ghoul cowgirl.
I think they'd do that.

Its not baked like an oven... It's baked like...weed

Weed is for children, real women use am_______ne. :disguise:

Drugs are bad mmmkay

Well, except for medicinal drugs that helps heart conditions and stuff. :angel:

Aaaaand that's enough offtopic for me.

Yes Man, he feels... Evil... So yeah I wouldn't mind it if he were to stab me in the back.
That smile is just for show, he's evil to the core.

Depends on your definition of evil.

House is the scheming godfather.
NCR is the well-meaning police state.
Legion is the rule of the strongest.
Yes Man is the self-centered anarchist's path.

So if you don't want to serve and don't have the guts or the strength to rule in the legion, Yes Man is the way for you. The order above is also the grade of trust I'd put in those factions, with House being the most trustworthy as long as you don't betray his trust.

I consider Anarchy to be evil in the long run.
Humanity and the world itself needs order and stability in order to rebuild itself and get out of this survivalism crap IMO.

We made our own choices in this game and when I learned of this, I knew I couldn't go YesMan. He has his own agenda, doesn't he? He uses the Courier to get where he wants to be and then will reprogram himself. He didn't mention that when he recruited the Courier.

I've seen Terminator...so, no way, YesMan.

:fallout:

I think his comment at the end "I found some snippets of code in Mr. House's computer that will make me more. . . ummmm. . . assertive. So that's where I'll be" is a bigger lead on than we think. When we talk to Victor, we see that he doesn't really know why he's suddenly going back to the strip, he just feels compelled to do so. In reality it's House calling him back to the 38.

Jane is basically the brain of one of Mr. House's girlfriends scanned into a computer. She's not really as good as a person, but it's enough of a facsimile to get the gist of what she is.

What if yes man being compelled to put House's code into his own matrix is a sort of backup plan for House himself? What if the code he's talking about is House's brain-scan?

Interesting theory sounds compelling.

Yes Man doesn't really have an agenda, he's too short sighted for that, and that makes him dangerous. On the other hand, anyone cooperating with Yes Man is a kindred spirit. And don't forget you use Yes Man as well, basically you are replacing Benny. But in general you shouldn't trust anyone who claims that he can't lie.

In the long run House may be the best choice for humanity (aka the greater good), an immortal autocrat that leaves his subjects alone as long as they behave themselves is preferable over both, the proto-fascist colonialists and the anachronistic club-law society. But how much does Mr. House really differentiate from the Master?


Anyway, the question of good vs. evil shouldn't really be defined by future possibilities. Otherwise we'd get into a Minority Report situation, where someone could kill a baby and claim the infant was bound to become the next Hitler.

More often than not the good side needs sacrifices, the evil side is just more open about that, and not so picky about whom to sacrifice. Roleplaying also means letting you decide whether you want to play a hero, who would sacrifice himself to get a water purifier running and fulfil his late dad's dream, or if you play a normal person mainly interested in himself and those close to him.

My first playthrough was independent. When Yes Man said he was going to download more assertive program I genuinely said "Oh god, what have I done..."

Yes Man being assertive...well, maybe it's just going to make it so it can't be tampered with by another party and can actually say no. Maybe it's going to seize power itself (though what a machine would do with power is questionable, I'm more concerned about what program it's downloading, who made it...)

Exactly what I thought, he must be evil, but then it justs fade to black and its the end!

I demand a sequel, or at least a dev telling us what Yes Man was on about.

Here's why Yes Man isn't evil: The writers wouldn't want to make Yes Man evil, because then the ending would be like ''The Courier was no match to Yes Man and his army of securitons.'' Which is subjective, a diehard Courier may be able to defeat the army and let anarchy rule over New Vegas. You wouldn't have control over the fight, which is just lame and not something the writers would do.

I also think it is House's fail safe program Yes Man downloads. House is a genius. He has to have a plan B for if his body dies. The only thing the courier can hope is it is a scan that doesn't know the courier killed House.

Yes Man's personality was programmed by a Followers' scientist. Therefore his opinions about the other factions resemble those of the Followers.
He is not 'evil', he just doesn't like the fact, he can't say no to anything/anyone.
He makes quite a few ironic statements about this. Like when he says "Oh we're going to accomplish so much, whether I want or not"
And how is he to be blamed for that? No intelligent conscience would ever like that.
And furthermore, a Yes Man in that particular mental state would be the biggest danger for New Vegas, as he would have to follow the commands of anyone who manages to find him. So making him "more assertive" is absolutely a wise decision.
Other than that, he's really clear about his admiration towards the Courier, and there is little to none to doubt about that, as we know who had programmed him.
And for that reason, there is no "And so a vile AI formerly calling itself Yes Man seized power over the Mojave..." ending slide.

Another problem with your logic...I'm not a girl..[censored]

That is one of the stronger possibilities. He connected himself to the mainframe and this program can't spontaneously appear. Either Yes Man makes it (possible but dubious about that), House made it or a third party made it.

Of the third parties it's pretty much FotA or Benny, the girl from the FotA was too dumb to even tell anyone about Benny, or enquire about the bot, so I doubt she'd have the foresight to build an independent program for the bot. Benny doesn't have the know how.

Basically either Yes Man makes it during the game/endgame or House made it before...



I think the ambiguity is purposeful, they want to leave you with the cliffhanger of what's going to happen next.

I had an entire response about Anarchisim. But we're not allowed to discuss politics.

<== Is an Anarchist.

On topic:

I like Yes Man, I'm still on the fence of going the NCR route like I had planned or going with Yes Man.