If you had the technology…

Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:48 am

...to invade other people’s privacy, to sneak a peak at their personal thoughts, even STEAL their intellectual property and sell it off as your own, would YOU choose to use it?
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Mark
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:47 pm

My own private thoughts are plenty, thanks.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:16 am

Not only do I find the idea of mind reading morally questionable I think it's practically not that useful anyway. People's thoughts are so disjointed. We don't typically maintain one stream of thought long enough to have any form of coherency to it. For example, what were you thinking the last ten seconds before you read this thread? Chances are you don't remember because it's just not that useful.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:18 pm

Um... no. I wouldn't even look through someone's computer or diary, let alone their thoughts.
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Kay O'Hara
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:09 pm

Where's the evidence that this is happening? This is the second thread like this you've made and neither one gives any real evidence. That article just asks "WHAT IF?" but then implies it's already happening. Don't just patronize me with conspiracy theories without solid evidence that it's going on.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:50 pm

If I had the technology, I would rebuild him. I would have the capability to make the worlds first Bionic Man. And Steve Austin would be that man.

But to the topic at hand; the copyright and patent process has become so disjointed and we consider our ideas for things to be so incredibly important, and the need to share and improve them with other people them so incredibly unimportant... maybe would should start looking into that before discussing hypothetical mind-reading idea theft?
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:37 am

Well, in a personal circle, I would just gather information for my own files. Not for blackmail or anything, just for the sake of knowing.

In an outer circle, such as executives, presidents, etc. I would gather information on those I think deserve to be revealed just to finally get the bad people out of politics and business. For kicks.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:04 pm

Where's the evidence that this is happening? This is the second thread like this you've made and neither one gives any real evidence. That article just asks "WHAT IF?" but then implies it's already happening. Don't just patronize me with conspiracy theories without solid evidence that it's going on.
Something like this:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57344881-52/ibm-mind-reading-is-less-than-five-years-away-for-real/

Not the best example, I realize. Studies have already been done over the past five years with fMRI technology, with a high degree of success reading the speech processing region of the brain to determine a person's "internal monologue," or what they are intending to say.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-20002107-76.html

The challenge has been in mobilizing this technology. New high frequency devices that enable scanning of the brain remotely may leverage this same learning and pattern anolyzing software to bridge the gap.

Of course, the classified stuff is a lot more difficult to reference.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/05/army-removes-pa/
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:26 pm

I suppose it is a moot point. Of course, you or I would never use such technologies. But as we well know...

The rich are different.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:51 pm

what do you mean if I had that technology. I work for the CIA.
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Jessica Phoenix
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:48 am

They only use them to monitor you.
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John Moore
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:38 pm

No, I would definitely hear something weird, or if they were near me they would say something bad about me and I would get sad...
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:47 pm

No, I would definitely hear something weird, or if they were near me they would say something bad about me and I would get sad...
:cake: I made you a cake, because I just used this technology to learn that you like cakes. :cool:
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:09 pm

To read other people's mind can be life saving but also life destroyer. Like my grandmother used to say, sometimes is better not to know. If all of the sudden I know that my mother was a prosttute and, my father a serial killer and child molester, and I was adopted, I'll be in for a hell of a ride after that:(
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:55 pm

Oh geez. Not this again... :tongue:

1. Have you seen an fMRI machine? There is literally no feasible technology that could get such a machine down into a smaller footprint due to the use of massive permanent magnets. Plus no way to make it even close to remotely useable.
2. You are extrapolating heavily even based on what the experimental research is saying and basically twisting it.
3. You are also tossing around terms and phrases with little regard to what practical applications they actually are even theoretically supposed to possess. The best example of you doing that is insinuating that terahertz waves could be used to somehow "penetrate" the brain "remotely" - a complete and utter misunderstanding of what terahertz waves actually allow for.

As to the actual question, unfeasible as it is, I'd say "probably not." It would open up a huge Pandora's box, simply for me on a personal level.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:38 pm

Yes.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:43 am

Of course. Power is power. It's how you use it that defines you as a person.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:27 pm

Oh geez. Not this again... :tongue:
You are right about the terahertz frequency. I was thinking about that after I posted it but didn't feel like editing. But being between infrared and microwave it wouldn't be sufficiently powerful for any sort of internal imagery or data anolysis.

To be honest, I am more concerned about why our government has opted to leave us defenseless against biotechnology and the threat of human engineered (or even naturally mutated) virus than this, given we have shown we can re-engineer H5N1 to be airborne and human transmissible.

Still, I can see many agenda related to profit and greed that might benefit from the ability to eavesdrop on other people's thoughts, and many more people willing to use it than would be crazy enough to release a bio-weapon.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:02 pm

You are right about the terahertz frequency. I was thinking about that after I posted it but didn't feel like editing. But being between infrared and microwave it wouldn't be sufficiently powerful for any sort of internal imagery or data anolysis.
Indeed.

To be honest, I am more concerned about why our government has opted to leave us defenseless against biotechnology and the threat of human engineered (or even naturally mutated) virus than this, given we have shown we can re-engineer H5N1 to be airborne and human transmissible.
And how exactly would they "defend" us against an airborne virus? Give everyone gas masks? Hazmat / hazchem suits? There is only so much preventative measures one can take against a theoretical happenstance. It's easy to say that government or X agency isn't doing enough - what is difficult is giving reasonable suggestions as to what could be done that they aren't doing.

Still, I can see many agenda related to profit and greed that might benefit from the ability to eavesdrop on other people's thoughts, and many more people willing to use it than would be crazy enough to release a bio-weapon.
Well, duh.
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Post » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:10 am

I'm afraid my mind in all of it's growing desire of knowledge would want to see people's thoughts and know what they feel, but as for making profit of it? That's bad. Not to say I'm the best person ever but I'm not that kind of bad.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:48 pm

When THIS technology comes around, we all must rise up and fight. The Illuminati, Area 51, Majestic 12, easily tricked fools think that these ARE the works of "conspiracy hokerrs", completely blind to the truth. These groups have been ruling the world for years IN secret, yet we remain ignorant to their real intentions. First it begins with READING our thoughts and stealing our ideas, then it turns into thought police, and then they'll move ONTOcontrolling humanity at its most base, using machines to alter human evolution. A bunch OF people on here will scoff, but I swear, soon we'll have these groups using mechanical and (god help us) NANO augmentations to control our very BODIES. And then two MAGIC men named Adam Jensen and JC Denton will save us all, depending on the choices players make throughout the game.

Unless we TAKE action now, the Illuminati and corporations will OWN us entirely. :stare:
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:31 pm

When this technology comes around, we all must rise up and fight. The Illuminati, Area 51, Majestic 12, easily tricked fools think that these are the works of "conspiracy hokerrs", completely blind to the truth. These groups have been ruling the world for years in secret, yet we remain ignorant to their real intentions. First it begins with reading our thoughts and stealing our ideas, then it turns into thought police, and then they'll move onto controlling humanity at its most base, using machines to alter human evolution. A bunch of people on here will scoff, but I swear, soon we'll have these groups using mechanical and (god help us) nano augmentations to control our very bodies.

Unless we take action now, the Illuminati and corporations will own us entirely. :stare:
Can't tell if serious...

I'll err on the side of not serious. Makes me feel better.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:22 pm

And how exactly would they "defend" us against an airborne virus? Give everyone gas masks? Hazmat / hazchem suits? There is only so much preventative measures one can take against a theoretical happenstance. It's easy to say that government or X agency isn't doing enough - what is difficult is giving reasonable suggestions as to what could be done that they aren't doing.

Something like this:
http://www.iparadigm.org/12-24-2011/welcome-to-the-interplanetary-paradigm/

Offered as an opt-in, so no one was forced to participate, eventually bringing more commercial infrastructure (like shopping malls, etc.) into compliance, so one didn't have to leave the security of the network in order to live a relatively normal life.

I understand that many wouldn't want to give up cars, boats, trains, and airplanes so readily. Yet at the same time, I know many young professionals that would gladly jump at the chance to participate in such a new model infrastructure, and it just doesn't seem conscionable to leave EVERYONE defenseless just because a majority of stubborn hold-outs never want to change.

Especially since the CIA have issued reports saying this is the ONLY option that could defend against this threat, and we need to shore up defense spending to do this if we are to survive. That was almost four years ago when Obama took office.

That is something we COULD do relatively easilly. As pointed out in the article, it is also the RIGHT thing to do, considering the troubling trends of our modern outsourcing and increasingly automated economy. Humans are becoming obsolete and eventually, SOME new standard will need to be develloiped to address this. Otherwise we'll have massive nationwide homeless camps before we know what happened.

I don't see digging holes to fill them in to justify giving man a paycheck as a solution, or in anyway helpful to our future, nor will it address this most critical threat we have ever faced. This secure public housing and food/medical/water ration program does both, and does so in compliance with green energy standards.

It just seems insane not to offer those that would choose it an option. Then let the people that want to drive down all yesterdays roads with the top down do so if they choose to take the risk. But don't leave everyone behind because of the attitudes of the majority.

It is actually quite unprecedented. This is the first generation of humans that has faced a new threat of such an overwhelming nature that we simply threw our hands up and quit trying.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:07 pm

Can't tell if serious...

I'll err on the side of not serious. Makes me feel better.

Too subtle? I'll fix it then. also forgot the capitals

Better?
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:56 am

Too subtle? I'll fix it then.

Nah it was obvious you were joking.
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