I hope they just have a normal wireless controller. They need to focus on the inside of the machine.

Not that im going to consoles but id like to see what they'll put under the hood of the next gen consoles. No doubt they'll be obsolete a year later mind.

It wasn't needed 10 years ago, and it's still not needed now. They figured out a way to cheat the system, and now they're taking advantage of it.

People aren't buying games new for good reason: decline of game quality + rehashed yearly sequels + overpriced games = overpriced generic sequels that just aren't worth it to buy for full price.

That name is a joke that came about from the Real Steel movie.

As for the rumors....well they are rumors and I will take them with a grain of salt.

I really hope Sony stick to a plain controller and as powerful hardware they can possibly ram into the thing while still having it be "market-accessible". Honestly, I'd be happy with a $500 PS4 assuming that they don't go all PS3 on it and spend most of the budget on radically innovative, interesting, but really quite wasteful, new tech (i.e. Blu-Ray+Cell Architecture). I'd like to see a decent Blu-Ray drive, a good-sized HDD, a standard, solid quad-core CPU or, considering the architecture work and experimental stage is done, a souped-up Cell CPU, a good chunk of RAM (4 GB minimum, 6 or 8 GBs ideal please... it's just too dirt cheap to pass up), and whatever is left of their budget dropped on the strongest Fermi or Kepler line GPU possible (again, for the budget). That, combined with a serious focus on proper SDK tools following the PS3, a free online service, and a good line-up of games, would make a $500 console easily worth it and, in my opinion, a very nice alternative to potentially relatively weak and/or overly gimmicky competition. Nintendo and Microsoft will be doing their thing, Sony could decide to try and appeal to the "hardcoe" gamer that just wants a traditional console (sure many exist). Plus, if they wait until after Microsoft release their new console as it seems, hardware will progress further and make a PS4 that much more potentially cost-effective when it does release. It can crush the other two systems graphically and appeal to a more standard console approach, guaranteeing a unique role for itself in the upcoming console generation that I'm sure many people still wish for, though the price might not be so well-received, initially... but I want a "powerful" console, not a dirt-cheap one.

Of course they're making as much money as when someone bought it new.

The game was paid for when it was bought new.

They aren't losing money which is entirely the point.

They aren't losing out on a profit margin. They are missing out on the chance to charge people for 2nd hand goods.

The 2nd had game market is something that Publishers see ZERO profit in.

So the Publisher thinks to themselves... Wow... how do I get myself a piece of that market?

They come up with ideas to allow them to keep getting more money out of the original game. Online passes are a perfect example of this.

So we're back to my point about the REAL reason behind a digital download approach which is cutting out the cost of producing and distributing discs but as mentioned above though it sounds like a good idea on paper, in practice it could end up doing much more harm than good and end up taking money out of the Console market and making it as hopeless as the PC Gaming market.

Az

If the whole not being able to play olde games on the next console is true it wont bother me at all. I'm not buying a new next gen system to play older games from the previous console. I'll buy the next gen to play new next gen games.