How do you think the zones will be levelled?
I hope that one province for example High Rock is not much more higher level like 45-50 while Skyrim would be like 10-20. I hope they use the districts instead like for example:

? Falkreath Hold 15-20 with some bosses for higher levels

? Molag Amur 30-40
? Valus Mountains 20-30

ect ect..

As long as i can enter any zone at any level regardless if ill be instantly killed i don't mind.

Why? You won't be able to explore efficiently. An MMO is not focused on exploration, but high-end gear grinding. Killing the same thing multiple times just hoping your Head piece drops.

I suspect that if you explore, you'll be unable to experience a large part of the game that'll require good gear.

Its part of what makes an MMO an open world,have you ever played an MMO that is totally open or allows you to go anywhere at any level,i'm guessing not.

The feeling of danger if you stray from the path or trying to join a friend on the other side of the world but knowing it will be a epic risky journey at low levels.

EQ-Vanguard are two such MMOs,the sense of immersion is great.

I hope not. I feel like I should be able to go anywhere and do anything at any time. Of course some regions would be more difficult - avoiding frost trolls in the mountains of Skyrim and such. But it would go against the 'freedom' of the Elder Scolls if there were zones and the like, IMO.

Yes but I dont know how they would be able to pull that off. This is an MMO after all.

Have you actually played an MMO lol?

Each race supposedly has individual leveling content so there are probably low- to fairly high-level areas in each province.

Hopefully it is balanced and each zone makes sense.
Safe Zones
-Cities
-Forts
-Settlements

Low Danger Zones
-Outskirts of cities
-Roads
-Farmsteads
-near settlements

Caution zones
-off of roads
-away from cities and towns
-near bandits
-near conflict zones
-borders

Danger zones
-High in the mountains
-Deep in the Swamps
-Ruins
-Conflict zones
-Far into the desert
-Up in the trees
-In the frozen areas

Very Dangerous Zones
-Then specific places like Red mountain, Labyrinthine, Gaius Galatar, Sancre Tor etc. etc...

The problem with the zone/based class based leveling systems is you end up with an abandoned world. if Falkreach is level 10-15, when you hit level 16 you have no reason to EVER go back to Falkreach. Having a huge world and then segmenting it into level ranges is terrible design. It's one of he primary things killing SWTOR. GW2 is attempting to get around this by having TES style scaling (backwards). So, that if you went to Falkreach at level 40, you'd be scaled down to level 15 so the content is still challenging and xp/rewards would be scaled to be worthwhile at level 40.

One big open world,go anywhere the eye can see,no restriction no matter the level.You risk going into an area that is higher level than you know you risk dying even if it is an area you need to cross to meet up with friends or explore,that's the excitement of an open world MMO.

Take Vanguard as an example,no where is out of bounds and it has no instances,every single dungeon/cave is open.You want to cross a vast sea then cross by boat or levitation or you want to cross a vast mountain range then start climbing.

Frankly, if TESO focuses on high-level gear grinding and heroic dungeons it will be extremely short lived. I cannot possibly think of a worse approach to an Online TES game...

Yea not even close,

He has not replied to my question so i don't think he has ever played an MMO before.

I've made a thread about it!




http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1371372-please-no-level-based-provinces/page__fromsearch__1

Brilliant!

Thanks, that literally took like a minute of thought. I am pretty sure the devs can figure it out if I can. I don't even play MMOs...This might be the first one I actually buy and play. Most I played was like 2-3 weeks of Asheron's Call back in 2003 or something.

Personally I think it will be very much a bummer going through Tamriel and not being able to constantly find challenge, rewards, and even level mobs everywhere I go. I don't expect the world to level up along with me and only me, but I think that aspect of being able to find challenge anywhere at any time is going to be greatly missed from the single player series.

I'm honestly not sure why someone would even want to play a TES MMO, because you're going to feel like some random schlub that if you walk into the wrong area you get one-shotted, surrounded by other schlubs. I'd much rather play as a hero of legend in the single player games, I don't see how they can even come close to replacating that experience in an MMO.

That's what Skyrim-Oblivion-Daggerfall-Morrowind are their for,none of this will effect your single player experience in those games.

I would like to play a TES game alongside other heroes,now i can,your happy and so am i.

Don't see the problem unless you want everyone else to share your view.

Except you won't really be heroes, you'll be random faceless nameless warriors or mages or whatever. You won't be the Dovahkiin/Nerevarine/Champion of Cyrodiil or anything similar.

And while it won't effect previous games, to say it won't impact or effect future games is foolhardy. They are going to create content for this MMO, lots of content because it's an MMO, which means that I won't have a chance to experience that content in a single player game. Molag is the main villian of TESO, so what do the think the chances are that we ever get a single player game with him as our main villian?

To say this won't effect the single player is simply not true. They are going to retcon stuff and change things all over the place until it's an unrecognizable mess.

You cant say weather it will effect the single player game or not,you can't read the future or can you?

Nope, ill be playing alongside my RP guild in a world based on TES,plenty of heroic adventures to be had with my guild and groups.As a RP in MMOs i get involved and we actually live the game and have organised events and rewards,go play LOTRO on the RP servers and you will see what i'm getting at.

Again,you can play your single player TES and we who look forward to living in a TES virtual world can enjoy TESO.

No one is forcing you to follow this game or play it,if you aint interested then move on,simple solution really.

Yes, I can say it will effect the single player game. Because there is no way you can create a prequel MMO, make it canon, and not have it effect the single player game. If they make it a different 'verse of some kind and don't make it canon, then yeah, it may not effect. But from everything they have said it will be the same canon universe, thus it simply cannot avoid impacting future single player games.

I would much rather see a small co-op game, with as huge a story as previous TES games, but maybe geared with a group of adventurers as the centerpiece instead of an individual. That way they could actually keep everything that makes TES special in place, instead of some watered down MMO where nothing ever really dies or changes.

Yes it will have an effect, that effect is likely to be minimal.

I don't think it will even be minimal to be honest,it's an MMO that follows the MMO system it's nothing to do with the lore or system you find in SPTES games.

I don't consider the potential of using up major characters for stories in the MMO thus preventing thier inclusion as a main villian or other character in a future TES game to be "minimal".



Huh? At this point I'm not sure how to respond, as it seems you obviously don't really understand how a building a world and maintaining canon works.