run naked will be faster than full heavy...thats about it. I miss those things.

I suppose comparing D&D to TES is a bit unfair, but I dunno... certain things in TES just don't seem on the same level as other fantasy games. Even little things like Elves naturally walking silently, in which they don't do in TES, but in other games of the fantasy genre they do.

Because the elves of Tamriel aren't the elves of LotR/Faerun/Thedas.

There is a way to kill Slaughterfish. Simply activate a flame/frost/lightning cloak and then go swimming in the water. It's the only guaranteed way to kill those dern fish fast.

I liked my Oblivion Monk! So the only skill I really miss from Oblivion, is being able to have Hand-to-hand work as a main stay in combat, I hope Unarmed could be tweaked so that I could have it as a more viable alternative compared to the other combat options, but on second thought, maybe I need to do more testing on how unarmed works with sneak attacks.


And I miss being able to block unarmed too.

In one of the previews, a journalist (?) said he found Boot of Quickfoot, which were supposed to increase your running speed. Either he made that up or they decided to remove them again. I was pissed.

And yes, TES is pretty high fantasy. The last two games in human provinces made it look lower than it actually is, though. Especially with the removal of magic in Skyrim.

In a universe where the moons are a corpse of a god, females turn into abominations through ancient magicks, and Men trade their hearts for Magickal ones exposed to the air and become stronger, its High Fantasy.

In a Universe where for a race of cat peeps, the moon you're born on determines your "species", ones voice can knock down Seige walls and a sword style blows up an entire continent, I must say its fantasy.

But all in all WHO GIVES A DAMN whether its High or low, Point and case its Fantasy, and any imposed limitations akinned to the "real world" is Moot for a Fictional Fantasy setting that never made attempts to be "realistic" so please give us back the mechanics to control and diversify our Characters more please and thank you.

Anyone calling for the removal of Options need none in the first place imo, having many options isn't a bad thing and in being options you can wholly ignore them if you want.

Take H2H in Skyrim for example, it reaks of being a novelty. something of an attempt that in it was placed in because it was well known its exclusion would have wrought the fury of hell unlike anything previously witnessed in the history of TES lol, why does it have finishers but doesn't scale? why are perks related to it in HEAVY ARMOR? is it not true for the most part that H2H combat is done WITHOUT cumbersome armor on? did that make any kind of sense?

why Is water walking gone? their are floating creatures and FLYING animals in Skyrim, why is water walking gone?

Why is the only method to opening Locks having to deal with Theif Archtype? why is this game forcing peeps into either Mage Warrior or Thief?

What kind of stupidity is a potion that increases Skills?

What is with all these weird near obtuse design descisions for a Game that had 3 years of developement and 5 years over all, in essense longer than any TES game before it.

The "unable to jump while sprinting" is indeed ridiculous (short of tarded actually ) though im kind of fine with the speed woes. I'd really like spells like open lock back though. They really gave mages the dump in skyrim. Just looking at the short list of alteration spells is obvious enough.

Yeah if your underwater you cannot save your ass with a water breathing spell. So if you end up stuck underwater somehow you are doomed if you can't find the surface, even with a water breathing spell. I can see not shouting underwater, but not casting or attacking? Stupid design choice.

I never maxed out the speeds, but I raised them to 55 or 60 so I wasn't a stupid turtle. I actually like the sprint feature but I have to sacrifice health and magicka in order to be a decent athlete? I'm an amazing athlete in real life, and a great businessman, father, artist and musician. I never had to give up my health and fitness to achieve any of my other dreams. Being able to run fast endlessly should be a perk not a sacrifice in more critical attributes like health and magicka.
Try shouting after you already jumped. Oh your so scared you can't shout or do anything at all while airborne. The player controls are nearly all locked up once you are airborne. Splat. Nice penalty Bethesda. I don't want to shout to be a good acrobat or shout to survive some tiny fall. I made a 400 HP tank warrior and he still died on a minor waterfall. I like to play as a vampire/thief and should be able to fall 1000 feet if I want to invest into acrobatics.

Thieves should use lock picks. Mages should use spells, and fighters ought to be able to bust locks off with a warhammer, or kick the damn door down. I'm a big dude and I can kick any door in with a good kick. Yet some super jacked warrior in a fantasy game can't bust open a little box or pop open some crappy medieval door? I like role playing choices. They removed one.

You can't jump when sprinting, you can't cast, you can't attack, you can't even shout. Same goes for falling. Its UNBELIEVABLE that I can't shout while I'm in the air, or cast. Ever see a movie where the guy is falling but he pulls out a gun and shoots something? Sure it's improbable but it's cool as hell. I think we play these kinds of games so we can be a super human at some point, not a regular mortal. And that line of thinking is contradicting everything TES offers anyway.
First reasonable thing you've said!
I think H2H could have been lumped into athletics with a simple branch with a few perks. Damage multipliers, snap neck finishing move when sneaking, block, eye gouge, whatever. It wouldn't take that much work to come up with a decent perk branch. Doesn't need it's own skill, but just a small branch off of athletics.
I think for a mage of fighter to have to lock pick instead of use a spell or bust open a chest is stupid. Why my flames don't melt a lock if I spray it long enough doesn't make sense. It's limited options that bother me. I like the mini game, if I'm playing as a thief. Back in Oblivion I'd use spells as a mage and just get the skeleton key quick for a fighter, until the lock bash mod came out and then I used that. It was great. Attracts enemies but bring them on, I'm a warrior, who cares. It felt good smashing those stupid locks to bits, and thats what this game is about, fun and role playing.

I rarely would need that much but the option to do so was good. If I want to enchant every piece of armor with feather and chug 4 potions and invest a lot into strength to do so, I could. Now you can only enchant certain types of apparal with certain enchantments. Further nonsense. I like stupid overpowering things. I rarely exploit them but merely take things to a level where I can do what I want. I sacrificed resist magic, fortify archery and other useful enchants to carry 1200 pounds, so it balanced out. Once I was stronger I would throw out that gear and not need it, but early in the game it allowed me to loot everything in one haul. Options are good for roleplaying. Streamlining isn't.

This man makes perfect sense and deserves a fishy stick!

As long as the options makes sense I agree. But in low fantasy genre, overpowered beyond game breaking has no place. The game, not ourselves, is our game master, and it should act as one. If we had Oblivion like Chameleon in a dice game with a human game master, and the game master couldn't come up with counters against Chameleon, which is exactly what happened in Oblivion and made it game breakingly overpowered, he would deny its use for whatever reason he could come up with.

But same here. If Chameleon can't be made work properly without breaking the game, we're better off without it than with a broken implementation. There are many things I want back too, just not in a broken state. And from a programmers point of view, it is typically harder to fix than most realize. Similarly, there is a lot of content type I'd like to see brought back. Like Daggerfalls hoods that could be flipped etc. Except that may be an extremely hard thing to get right in full 3D with all its clipping concerns.

Personally I am a strong believer in that one of the major faults in this series is the concept of additive stacking. You either have to limit enchants to be weak and plenty, or strong and few. If effects where halved during each addition (40%*1/1 + 30%*1/2 + 30%*1/4 etc) we could have more slots and strong effects, and the maximum possible theoretical effect was twice that of the maximum effect but you could never get it.

Yea, the removal of Feather is just annoying. The fact that you have to increase your stamina to gain carrying capacity is just Bethesda's latest little scheme to make playing a mage as annoying as possible.

At least in Morrowind and Oblivion once you had your Intelligence and Willpower maxed out you could go for strength and get to carry your loot home too, not the case in Skyrim, there is no max for hitpoints and magicka, so you are stuck with the same low carrying capacity forever.

I would like to brawl with people more.

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This effects was essentially cheating, and Open spell was useless. It doesn't matter if they are in the game or not.

You see, people complain about not being able to attack while falling, or underwater, but do they even realize how difficult it is? Very. And acrobatics; what a useless skill. "I jumped 10 times, now i can jump 50 feet?! Yeah!!" And Hand to Hand again pretty redundant. You wouldnt be able to punch a troll to death.

Call me crazy. but I think that Athletics was removed for a technical reason.

Bethesda may have felt that systems (especially the consoles) would lockup / crash if the external cells couldn't load fast enough and keep up with your character's movement speed. That may also explain why the horse movement speed was toned down a bit as well. There's a fair amount of texture and other game data to load when moving from cell to cell, so my theory is feasible enough.

As far as the other features from past titles being cut for this one (open spells, H2H, etc), I'm still scratching my head over their train of thought here.