ADD RELIGION ASPECT IN NEXT FALLOUT : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue May 10, 2011 2:07 pm

I was watching book of Eli and I thought it would be so cool to have this in the next Fallout, or maybe even DLC...to add a religion aspect to Fallout. Me being a Christian would love to find bibles in the game and then give them to a clan that would spread the word, but I also know there would be opposition so of course there would be an evil lookin to destroy the Bibles....Whadaya think people??? lets get a nice huge following on this poll

» Tue May 10, 2011 11:36 pm

Nope. I don't want watchdog groups aiming to get New Vegas banned as immoral and offensive to children. Thanks.

» Tue May 10, 2011 10:54 pm

Nope. I don't want watchdog groups aiming to get New Vegas banned as immoral and offensive to children. Thanks.

I hear ya but they include it in the ratings, which is already M for DRUGS, ALCHOHOL, or MURDER so come on now get real, its a matter choice in this game

» Tue May 10, 2011 11:59 pm

No. Absolutely not.
Introducing a religious element would be the surest way to start wild and vehement arguments.

» Tue May 10, 2011 1:51 pm

I hear ya but they include it in the ratings, which is already M for DRUGS, ALCHOHOL, or MURDER so come on now get real, its a matter choice in this game

All those are dismissable in the eyes of many. You start adding intention to opress religion? Fox News will have a field day.

» Tue May 10, 2011 9:07 pm

Nope. I don't want watchdog groups aiming to get New Vegas banned as immoral and offensive to children. Thanks.

This. It's not like such groups don't get bent about such games anyway, without effectively poking them with a stick.

» Tue May 10, 2011 4:07 pm

All those are dismissable in the eyes of many. You start adding intention to opress religion? Fox News will have a field day.

Thats ridiculous they already tried with games such as Grand theft auto and ANY game with murder in it... So you would rather endorse murder than an innocent feature in the game which is voluntary??? Doesnt make sense, all said was think BOOK of ELI

» Wed May 11, 2011 3:30 am

Thats ridiculous they already tried with games such as Grand theft auto and ANY game with murder in it... So you would rather endorse murder than an innocent feature in the game which is voluntary??? Doesnt make sense, all said was think BOOK of ELI

A game that simulates pixel murder is a whole other ball park than a game that introduces the philisophic concepts of oppression or remote indication of religious prejudice.

» Wed May 11, 2011 1:34 am

[quote name='Colonel Martyr' timestamp='1292394890' post='16812295']
All those are dismissable in the eyes of many. You start adding intention to opress religion? Fox News will have a field day.
[/qu

And actually you are exactly right, how about just a good group looking to find Bibles to spread forget the Evil aspect??

» Tue May 10, 2011 10:17 pm

And actually you are exactly right, how about just a good group looking to find Bibles to spread forget the Evil aspect??

Then you'd likely have Pro-Athiesm/religious neutrality watchdog groups claiming the developers forcing Christian beliefs down others throats. Religion is best left to the individual, or kept as a detail in a game, putting to much emphasis on religion is only asking for trouble.

» Tue May 10, 2011 9:19 pm

A game that simulates pixel murder is a whole other ball park than a game that introduces the philisophic concepts of oppression or remote indication of religious prejudice.

Not really, because in a way they already indirectly are including it in the game with how the Legion is.. They mock Roman society and Roman rulers considered themselves Gods, so am I being oppressive if I set out to be Good in this game by wiping out all the Legions who are bad???

» Tue May 10, 2011 5:59 pm

This. It's not like such groups don't get bent about such games anyway, without effectively poking them with a stick.

thank you i agree

» Tue May 10, 2011 3:55 pm

So you would rather endorse murder than an innocent feature in the game which is voluntary???

Yeah Martyr, you'd rather endorse murder?

Fox News indeed... :rolleyes:

thank you i agree

You do? Because the line you're saying you agree with is me agreeing with Colonel Martyr that this whole Bible feature shouldn't be added, because it would effectively be poking certain groups like those oft appearing on Fox News with a stick inciting them to raise unholy hell about "another devil-worshipping video game" etc. etc. etc.

» Wed May 11, 2011 3:06 am

No. Just no.

» Tue May 10, 2011 9:50 pm

Adding an overt christian theme, even as a side quest, will cause people to have a field day. Weather or not it's intentional, you'll have people saying that Fallout has simply become a vehicle for Christianity, and is trying to push Christianity onto others. Of course, that's going to hurt sales, would have fans from all eras of Fallout angered because of this viewpoint, and, worst-case scenario, cause Fallout to die again.

» Tue May 10, 2011 12:07 pm

Murder drugs sixual content blood gore intense, I compare video games to Movies and if movies can put this sort topic in their art then video games are DEFINITELY no different

» Tue May 10, 2011 6:15 pm

Adding an overt christian theme, even as a side quest, will cause people to have a field day. Weather or not it's intentional, you'll have people saying that Fallout has simply become a vehicle for Christianity, and is trying to push Christianity onto others. Of course, that's going to hurt sales, would have fans from all eras of Fallout angered because of this viewpoint, and, worst-case scenario, cause Fallout to die again.

Exactly.
Not just Christianity. ANY religion emphasized in the way the OP is talking would create the same result. As would any overt persecution of a religion.

It's just not a good idea.

» Tue May 10, 2011 6:53 pm

Yeah Martyr, you'd rather endorse murder?

Fox News indeed... :rolleyes: You've entered a no-spin zone! :rofl:

I dont care about Fox, but there are countless people who treat every word they say as carved in stone truth from the mouths of truth and justice.

@Pat- Now you're just making off the wall logic. Caesars Legion does not emulate the Roman Dinasty, only parts of it, the rest they do what suits their needs. However if a game started using alot of heavy dialogue bashing, thats likely to invoke alot of public outrage. It's one of those obnoxious hot button topics.

» Tue May 10, 2011 5:40 pm

Then you'd likely have Pro-Athiesm/religious neutrality watchdog groups claiming the developers forcing Christian beliefs down others throats. Religion is best left to the individual, or kept as a detail in a game, putting to much emphasis on religion is only asking for trouble.

Yeah so which ever way it went you would have some power hungry person that would be tryin to stick nose in a controversy just get his 15 mins, and then what the game still gets released and the same OPTIONAL missions would never be played you can still pick and choose what you wanna do the game its not like im askin for a MANDATORY mission to progress in the game, in the last 2 Fallouts their has been SIMILES, if you will, relating to religion, so I dont really understand where your goin with that,

» Wed May 11, 2011 2:34 am

in the last 2 Fallouts their has been SIMILES, if you will, relating to religion, so I dont really understand where your goin with that,

Actually you understand more than you realize. Do you know why there were parodies of religion in Fallout games? Yep- because they're much safer than the potential firestorm that can result from references to real religions.

» Tue May 10, 2011 3:54 pm

I dont care about Fox, but there are countless people who treat every word they say as carved in stone truth from the mouths of truth and justice.

@Pat- Now you're just making off the wall logic. Caesars Legion does not emulate the Roman Dinasty, only parts of it, the rest they do what suits their needs. However if a game started using alot of heavy dialogue bashing, thats likely to invoke alot of public outrage. It's one of those obnoxious hot button topics.

well if any CHRISTIAN watchdog looked at this game, which i doubt there is, they could already see some Satanic references in the last 2 games which they can easily say is spreading Satanism but do you hear anyone crying foul there, oh i guess speak volumes of whats REALLY accepted in society.....

» Tue May 10, 2011 2:19 pm

Yeah so which ever way it went you would have some power hungry person that would be tryin to stick nose in a controversy just get his 15 mins, and then what the game still gets released and the same OPTIONAL missions would never be played you can still pick and choose what you wanna do the game its not like im askin for a MANDATORY mission to progress in the game, in the last 2 Fallouts their has been SIMILES, if you will, relating to religion, so I dont really understand where your goin with that,

-Sigh- But you're missing my point. If someone finds some little quest in some VERY remote region of F:NV that had to do with....killing a Muslim or a Christian preacher, or spreading the word of God, it WILL cause some sort of anger. It's best left OUT of the game entirely. Going one way or another will cause a 'rabble rabble rabble' crowd. If you just stay neutral and leave it alone, there will be no controversy.

» Wed May 11, 2011 1:28 am

What GOD has anything to do with the wasteland ? it is a human made. not GOD.

» Wed May 11, 2011 3:59 am

Actually you understand more than you realize. Do you know why there were parodies of religion in Fallout games? Yep- because they're much safer than the potential firestorm that can result from references to real religions.

well thats where we can agree, some sort RELATION to spreading a sort of "BIBLE" like how they were looking for un ruined Pre-war books in Fallout 3 at the Library Archives, same concept but with a religious aspect,

» Wed May 11, 2011 1:32 am

-Sigh- But you're missing my point. If someone finds some little quest in some VERY remote region of F:NV that had to do with....killing a Muslim or a Christian preacher, or spreading the word of God, it WILL cause some sort of anger. It's best left OUT of the game entirely. Going one way or another will cause a 'rabble rabble rabble' crowd. If you just stay neutral and leave it alone, there will be no controversy.

well my last response addresses this