SO after several attempts I did the "forgot my password" thing. Figuring somebody must have forgotten it, probably Bethesda. I got the new password and tried again. Nada, same error message over and over.
SO I created another new account with a different email address, figuring maybe they just didn't like a character I had in my email name (funnier things have happened.)
Same thing happened again, they didn't accept the login after I activated the new account.
So, unhappily, I clicked the "log in with Facebook" button and was able to get logged in, although I could not link to the forum accounts I had set up because my "email address or password" was incorrect. shrug
So does everyone here have to log in with Facebook? I only ask because it seems there is no way to log in with email and password.
* I added the emphasis to the fact that I activated the account because I know someone will ask if I activated the account first. I also realize that having said that someone will still ask me if I activated the account. But now we can just assume they are being ironic rather than failing to read my post first when they ask that question 
