Are there better alternatives to

Wars in Skyrim IV

which works with WARZONES - Civil Unrest?

I'm tired of this half italian, half english mess and on top of that some esp being old 4.4, some 4.5 and some not working at all.

I've not had any problem running the two together. The language issue is quite annoying, though. There is a new version up on nexus today.

It wasn't my question if one has an issue running these two together. My question was if there's a better alternative out there to Wars in Skyrim IV.

You have a few excellent options available:

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=69 by Corepc

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9778 by Nedius

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9694 by Dogtown1


And, personally, I would go with http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=12479 by bigmagy1981 rather than Warzones. I plan to use an Occupy Skyrim/Skyrim Monster Mod combo in my next game.

Pluto's Improved Skyrim Experience - more spawns, harder enemies, overhauled enemy AI
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=1269
Random Encounters - adds different random encounters from vanilla: Vampires, Falmers, Werewolves, Dwarven Spiders, Spheres, Centurion, etc.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11836
Occupy Skyrim - adds more NPCs to random encounters
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=12479
Balanced Magic - designed to balance the game's magic spells - make the spells do damage and consume mana appropriate to your magic perks, and lessens the effect of abusive perks like the 100% stagger change of the 'Impact' perk. It also affects enemy mage NPCs, making them more challenging
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2275

Creature mods to check out:
Real Wildlife - Skyrim
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9778
Skyrim Creatures Alive
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=69
Realistic Animals and Predators (not compatible with Skyrim Monster Mod on my installation)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=10175
Skyrim Monster Mod
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9694

You might want to use http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=1840 to create a 'Bashed Patch' that will combine the changes that all those mods do. Otherwise, the last loaded mod will override earlier ones in case of conflicts.

I'm pushing it again. Since Wars in Skyrim shut down as of yesterday/today, I'm looking for a mod or combination of mods which do what WiS did as closely as possible.

None of the mods Galacticninja suggested do what WiS did. Anybody got anything?

Oooh removed from nexus...any idea as to why?

Here's the thread on the Nexus: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/636703-war-in-skyrim-mod-offline/

Apparently he just burned out of modding and removed everything instead of leaving it up for somebody to take over...

Hmm that's to bad, there was a lot of potential there for this mod as well. Guess I'll also be looking for some replacements since the mods abandoned it's pointless using it.

Really? He deleted the mod rather then letting someone take over it? That seems a little foolish but it was his mod... Wars of Skyrim was cool but I think the scope of what he was trying to do without perfecting and improving upon the main concept got a bit too jumbled... He was working on implementing too many concepts at once, some of them very random and it turned into a bit of a mess with a lot of bugs and balancing issues. Would have been a lot better if he just narrowed the scope of his work and focused on the original idea.

Thanks for all the suggestions here! I've managed to grab a few like Occupy Skyrim and Balanced Magic among others. It's a shame as I was really looking forward to donwloading WIS IV but the mod author disabled it...

If I want a feature like WiS' Bloodcoins ESPs (more frequent cell/enemy respawns), are there other, updated mods that can do this?


There are no mods that did "what WiS did". It's a very big mod that did a lot of unique things.

Which is why I asked for either A mod or a COMBINATION of mods.

This http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=12479 looks interesting. So does http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=13399, but I think they may be doing double duty.

Any thoughts? I've already got Creatures Alive, UnleveledWorld, and Real Wildlife .... Would Monster Mod also be too much .... I wonder? Maybe too FCOMish.

Bashed patch of course.

Well, as I mentioned earlier, I use Occupy Skyrim and Skyrim Monster Mod in my game. I love this combination. Occupy Skyrim handles much of the NPCs and SkyMoMod handles much of the creatures and they complement each other extremely well.

I haven't tried Skyrim Alive so I'm not qualitifed to talk about that mod. Real Wildlife is an excellent mod and I like a good many of its features but I already felt there were too many non-hostile animals in vanilla Skyrim. It seemed to me as though there were small armies of rabbits and goats and elk underfoot practically everywhere I went. I'm just not excited about adding more, no matter how well-executed the mod. I'm not a fan of unleveled enemies so Creatures Alive doesn't appeal to me.

In short, for me, Occupy Skyrim and SkyMoMod is a near-perfect team of mods. If you're thinking about Occupy Skyrim, I highly recommend it.

Take a look at this. many timescale options.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3084

You're really going to have to specify what things from WiS you want, given how large and unfocused it was.

One mod which hasn't been mentioned here yet, though, which will help if you're looking for "more spawns", "greater variation in spawns", and/or "more variety in opponents' spells": http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1358271-wiprel-asispise-successor/

Which is exactly what I tried to post - which you claimed that "did none of what WiS did":


Now, do you really want mod suggestions or not? Or did you try at least one of the above mods? How did you come to the conclusion that they do none of what WiS did?

I really recommend you to at least try Monster Mod. It adds a great variety of new creatures and is always being updated.
And I agree with Pseron, MoMod and Occupy Skyrim are perfect together, you should try both of them!

The skyrim monsters mod is really really creepy....and lore breaking.

Here we go:


Main Mods:

-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9694 as main mod
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9778
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=13102 (some overlaps with SkyMoMod)


Additional spawns:

-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11836 - adds new encounter zones in exteriors | configurable through console | your choice what will spawn
-> http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1358271-wiprel-asispise-successor/page__view__findpost__p__20482321 - changes spawnrates, adds new spells (yes it also imports spells from midas or phenderix) and changes the enemy hight scaling
-> partial http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=1269 - increased spawns, npc and ai edits and sneak tweaks


Food for ASIS:

-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=8451
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3413
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=5898


To make it a little bit harsher:

-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=8029 - highly recommend the infected part | harsher enemy poisons and diseases - may consider the vendor speech part as well
-> http://http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=601 - optional part provides increased fall damage
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11941
-> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2700, http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=5485 or http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1362399-duke-patricks-heavy-weapons-combat-mod/page__st__30__p__20576841__hl__duke__fromsearch__1#entry20576841


So called "Bloodcoins":

->http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3084


MUST HAVE: http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Programs/Wrye%20Bash/ - latest svn build for new loadorder system support and http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=6

I'm specifically looking for alternatives to WIS - Lore Friendly / Dark Rainbow.esp and WIS - Heros and Villains.esp.

I'm also interested in this to. Generally looking for the features like more spawns of people having a little war, and more enemies.

WiS being a dead mod seems silly to keep using it, especially since it has problems, and is super unbalanced. I exited whiterun the other day, and was immediately annihilated by a Cyclops... outisde the door to whiterun lol. A bit unbalanced.

It's a shame for WIS as Version 1.5 was quite balanced. It didn't have the heroes and villains or giant rock crabs killing everything.

Then I believe version 4 came and everything went out of control.

There are 4 plugins in WIS that I really, really like...

• Stealth Troubles - If you attack enemies in stealth mode, NPC's search for you for 2 minutes (in vanilla its's only 15-30 sec) and sneaking in sunlight is twice as difficult then vanilla.

• Double fall damage - Adds realism IMO, the vanilla values is BS. [EDIT: found a substitute: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=601 as optional file]

• Race - change the height of all NPC's; very good and lore friendly.

• Waters Wars - NPCs can swim. Water is not a "sanctuary" anymore. However, undead and Trolls fear the water so they don't swim.

I cannot find any replacement mod for this four three plugins. Do you, folks, think that is safe to continue with the plugins in my gameplay without the main file (WiS) or I have to let go this plugins either?...