Nothing's stopping me from eating every cupcake I find.

Now I'm too fat to move.

It's God's fault for making cupcakes. If He didn't make cupcakes, I wouldn't eat all of them!

Why would they nerf it? It's only OP if you, the player, decide to abuse it and make it OP. it isn't a balancing issue or a game issue because YOU spam iron daggers.

You should try Wabbajack on guards to get free sweetrolls

Anyone hoping Bethesda Nerfs Enchanting & Smithing....

Once ran into a woman after I got it, and all she would say was just "Wabbajack" repeatedly several times in a row, in a fast, demented kind of voice.

She then said she would be honored if I Wabbajacked her.

So I did, and she turned into a rabbit and hopped away.

It was so perfectly bizarre I swear I heard a far off voice echoing "CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!"

They Just needed to keep degradation and fix it.

Whats OP in them?

No, because this isn't COD and Bethesda is not Activision.

When the future patch addresses "difficulty rebalancing"?

I smell a nerf cooking up for those two overpowered skills...

They Just needed to keep degradation and fix it. Have repair require the same materials as the armor, or upgrades. Have weapons and armor degrade back to basic. vanilla stats. Not actually break. That would "balance" smithing. Enchanting is only really exploitable when you start making suits and potions to up it. Otherwise, only having two effects, from an already limited effects list (no shield enchant?) is far from OPed. Especially since there's less enchant slots than even Oblivion.

Aye, got this encounter too

YOU are the choosen !
You have Wabbajack !
Use it on me please !
Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack !!

i loled at her, really nice voice acting on this one

It's not exploiting or going around any game mechanics to get the ridiculously overpowered gear. You get the insane gear by doing it exactly like the tutorials in-game show you.

What if someone's playing a character who they want to be an enchanter/blacksmith and that's what they focus on. Why should they not be entitled to enjoy the game because all the challenge has been taken out/skewed so terribly?

Why did Bethesda put in the enchanting/blacksmithing lines into the game at all when it's supposed to be largely ignored. Maybe they could have spent more time developing parts of the game that needed it so bad (combat.) If you're supposed to ignore blacksmithing, enchanting and alchemy, there's also lock picking and pick pocketing that doesn't require a single perk be spent, as well as heavy and light armour being redundant because of remove weight penalties perk in the heavy armour line that makes 6/18 useless skill lines. Why did they even bother including them.

Yes. Fix blacksmithing and enchanting so they are viable skills to focus on without breaking the game. Also add more unique drops so that blacksmithing and enchanting aren't so integral to the game. You shouldn't have to force a game you're playing to be challenging and sadly with the lack of puzzles, difficult to traverse obstacles and the magic arrows solving every quest for you the combat is the only halfway decent challenge in the game.

I could buy a dozen cupcakes so that I could have maybe one a day, sometimes two, over the course of a week.

Or I could buy every cupcake I can find within a day's driving distance, to eat all of them in a single day.

Which is a normal approach to you?

So if everyone plays exactly like you it is ok, but if people try to raise their crafting up - that is somehow exploiting, abusing the system, or playing the game incorrectly? The problem is that players must go out of their way to avoid creating items that outmatch your enemies greatly. This is without cheating or looping alchemy pots. Just standard stuff in the game. Crafting Iron Daggers to level your skill is not "abusing the system" it is common sense. That however isn't really my complaint. My complaint is the fact that the difficulty in this game is a joke and players seeking any sort of challenge must create arbitrary rulesets to play with when the game should have a slider giving the player the ability to control the scaling of enemies, so that if you want a greater challenge, you can up the level off-set of enemies (for example enemies that scale with your level could scale to be 10 levels higher than you always if you chose - or less if you get stuck). That is a completely legitimate gripe. The "Master/Adept" difficulty settings do not seem to do a whole lot. It is kind of like how in some games a hardcoe mode adds "food consumption" to the equation instead of increasing the amount of mobs, their stats (and possibly AI), the arsenal of spells/skills they use, etc. I really am not quite sure if you guys are getting what is wrong with the game and how the implementation of a system like this will do absolutely nothing to limit your gameplay, only give you more options...

When the future patch addresses "difficulty rebalancing"?

I smell a nerf cooking up for those two overpowered skills...

WoW boards are that way ------------------------------------>

What has WoW got to do with anything at all here?

Oh heck no! Equipment degradation was a horrible idea. I am SO glad it's gone.