Circle werewolves are a different kind than normal ones.

Arnbjorn can control himself too, right? I mean it's not being in The Circle that enables you to control it, right...they just happen be able to control it and be in The Circle?

Arnbjorn used to be a Companion though, so he still received his abilities from the Glenmoril Coven, which might explain his ability to control himself.

Yes, Fallout 3 is more balanced, the rewards for being good or bad or neutrel more fair. Theres good factions and bad factions and choices that are more straightforward and balanced.
Blow up megaton, get money and luxury apartment. Defuse the bomb, get good karma and a house. Simple, clear and not at all hard to do.

I agree. There is too few purely good options all over the game. No purely good faction. No virtuous knights you can join to crush evil. You can't destroy evil in the most straightforward way, killing it, even.
There is no good faction you can join to oppose the a bad faction sometimes.
For every evil faction there should be a good one opposing it you can join.
It's too grey. They should have delinated more and made it clearer who was good and who was bad.
The factions should be bad faction, good faction, make it clear. Good faction does good stuff, bad faction does bad stuff.


The daedra offer most choice in being good and getting rewarded properly.
Meridia, Asura are good daedra.
Peryrite is neutrel. Just doing what he's supposed to. Hircines a fair daedra.
Theres bad daedra, which you can choose to serve.

There you have a choice. Serve them all or serve who you want.

But outside of those quests, it's ridiculous.
Do you want to destroy the thieves guild? Well you can't! Do you want to beat your way through evil Farkas style, and just get it over with? You can't!
The game won't even let you be evil properly sometimes.
FFS, you can't even kill Louis Letrush to get Frost. You've got to tell him you're going to kill him, before doing it! For crying out loud!

Do you want to be be a good virtuous person, destroying evil? You can't theres no reward for it, or it's less.
So theres loads of bad or stupid options. But you refuse to do them. That leaves you with...a lot less good options than there should be.

Find a real person who considers themself to be genuinely evil. I can guarantee you won't find many.

Well, "evil" has been replaced with "insane" in the modern world so, yeah, most insane people don't consider themselves insane.

...killing to engage in necrophilia...

Which quest/zone was that? I may have not noticed.

yes and no. the more morally wrong the bigger the reward.
the reason you are bad is because it pays more. thats why people are bad in real life, its easy and it pays money.

However I contend that poisoning or cutting the throats of children, killing to engage in necrophilia,

Yikes. Where in this game is there necrophilia? Inquiring minds want to know for sure.

I agree with a previous poster that I don't wish Bethesda to rate our actions as good / evil as with some other game, apparently, but there are universal standards for behavior which would be generally classed as good v those which are evil. There is nothing ambiguous about the DB or Thieves quests - they are universally evil.

Even w/o the r/p issues, it'd make the game a good deal more complex and deep to add opposing factions to these quests and have the outcome of completing either side of the quest reflected upon the world. That may not be a reasonable game design goal but it'd sure be a neat scenario.

Perhaps it could exist as a DLC at an isolated place like existed in both MW and OB.

OK, I can see your point. It's probably what Glorious was getting at earlier in this thread. It would add a different type of depth that an RP player could have fun with. I would play something like that. But the reward system as it is now does seem to skew toward evil. Arguably the two best (relatively) questlines are the DB and Thieve's Guild.

You don't see the necrophilia but if you read the journals in Yngvild it's clear what the necromancer there is doing.

Well, reading a journal with a reference to an act and performing a quest to perform that act is the difference between a drag queen and a dragon. The post I quoted said our PC would engage in necrophilia & I am wondering what quest that may be. I had the cannibal quest but will stop short of this one which is why I'd prefer knowing its name.

You don't see the necrophilia but if you read the journals in Yngvild it's clear what the necromancer there is doing.