I'm still confused about the bedroom situation in Winstad Manor. Do we need to add a bedroom wing for the kids? I noticed when I did that it just added one big bedroom with the advlts' and children's beds in it - so you have a massive mansion but you get no privacy! The kids get to watch Lover's Comfort! Even the bedrooms upstairs have no doors. Is my Hearthfire glitched?

Also, when you add the bedroom wing, do the kids sleep there, or on the single beds upstairs?

Is your bedroom situation the same? No doors upstairs, kids and advlts in the same bedroom downstairs?

Without HVAC ducting, interior doors are not used so that heat can get into the rooms from the central fire. In the middle ages of our world, most people lived in one room as the house only had one room. Even the Nobles would share their bedrooms (the maids and servants would sleep on the floor in the room).

man, I'm so glad I'm not alive then and just get to play video games about that kind of lifestyle.

Perhaps, but player-owned houses in Whiterun and Solitude both have bedrooms with doors, and in all player-owned houses (aside from Hearthfire), the added children's rooms are separate. Just wanted to know if there was something I overlooked.

no that is just the way they made the homes

A man that knows some about heating and cooling, and history...I'm impressed

This. And even if the houses HAD two rooms (and now I'm talking about 19th or even early 20th century) they often only used one, so they wouldn't have to heat the other (this might differ between different countries according to heating system in use, but at least it's true for my corner of the world).

Actually, family co-sleeping is very common in most parts of the world. It's only in the west we have this idea about kids having rooms of their own. Apparently people manage to make new people anyway. It doesn't have to happen in bed during the night, you know

True. In some Asian cultures, they consider us Westerners barbaric because we make our kids sleep in their own rooms. They typically have the kids in bed with the parents and see nothing odd about it.

Also, until recently, sharing beds was normal. Why put one person in a single bed that will hold two? Or two in a double bed that could hold four or five?

As for Lovers' Comfort, it might just involve sleeping in the arms of someone you love. Very G-rated. No one actually said six was involved in it.

I'm totally fine with co-sleeping, just didn't expect it after seeing most of the bigger houses in Skyrim with separate bedrooms. Guess it'll have to be the library then. (Wait, so that's what the "go play outside" dialogue is for!)

Which actually is quite common in western society as well, even though many parents are a little ashamed of it ("yeah, well, our five-year-old STILL sleeps with us sometimes", they say, blushing). Some choose it actively (google attachment parenting if you're interested), but in most cases the kids simply decide they want to sleep close to the parents and won't take no for an answer. Sure, some parents are into cry-it-out methods and such, but many just choose the easy way out, in order to get some sleep at all.

I'm more annoyed about the lack of doors at inns. Especially since NPCs can decide to sit and have a drink in the room you just rented just as you were about to go to sleep.

If you build the small beds available to build in the main hall, and not the ones in the bedroom, then your kid will have a separate bedroom.

How else would the children learn about reproduction?


In all seriousness: I was a bit shocked at this too...

And if you are not a Werewolf you get Lover's Bonus


The kids were watching

The solution is really simple...don't build kids beds for that room. Me... my issue was no "privvy" room. So I made the Alchemist tower...less the alchemist table, put down one kettle per floor, rolled papers, some reading material, and voila...one bathroom per floor The bedroom is a Master bedroom,and the guests, kid(s), and steward can sleep upstairs...me an' the Mrs. can have our fun in private!!!

Thanks for the tips. I already put the kids' beds in unfortunately. I'm pretty happy to have it that way for now, safer to have the kids sleeping near the parents in any case!

ha well the kids gotta learn someday

actually this is pretty realistic as once you have kids then theres very little privacy to be had and theres many times kids will get scared and want to squeeze in bed with daddy and mommy. kids are the death of the single six life, its never the same again

My housecarl sleeps in one of the kid beds upstairs at night. Suppose in modern terms, it would be considered twin size.

I haven't adopted any kids yet, not sure if he would move to sleeping on the floor somewhere.

Simply as Primates Psychologically speaking closeness builds security so no wonder we have a record breaking amount of kids on Prescrition drugs...

~NS

Thats why I don't have the bedroom wing heh... cause then the kids are in the same room. At least the other way, the kids can only hear the bed pounding on the wall between them. Of course nothing is stopping them from seeing what the heck is going on the first time. but granted at the age these kids are when they are adopted, they should already know about the birds and the bees.