http://www.gamersmint.com/battlefield-3-dev-says-comparing-the-pc-version-with-consoles-unfair

Whats your point?

Great content

Make teh PC purdier.

Of course, going about it like DICE did doesn't seem like a good idea. Making it clear that the PC version is vastly superior will just alienate console users. I can't wait to see what Battlefield 3 looks like on consoles, and I can't wait to see what the console players' faces look like when they see how much worse it is. That is not going to make consumers happy.

The embedded vid was ps3 gameplay. They have shown it.

The Witcher on console, I'm curious how much they cut. On PC it looks awesome.

Most of Dice's games are only for PC. So I don't really think there's much to be learned. They simply treat each system individually and apart from the other two. Sure that's good, but it also has it's downfalls.

I realize that there is a massive market for PC shooters... and always has been. But I always went for shooters and similar games on the console... otherwise, it just wouldn't get used with all of my RPGs on my computer! o.o

About BF3: you already did see if if you watched the demo, it had ps3, xbox360 and pc blended together according to the producer.

On topic: As said before, ignoring the console players and giving the PC players even more than they already do.. is a good solution if you are a PC player, but at the same time makes the console version even worse when they put time on PC version of the game instead of the game as a whole for all platforms.

i hate these kinds of threads. Its like asking for a flame war. :cryvaultboy:

I don't get why they shouldn't be happy. Are they not happy because they are playing on inferior systems or are they unhappy they aren't playing on the superior system (tech wise anyway).

If the game looks as good as it can look on the console why do they care it looks better on PC?

Why so? It's Bethesda who is being criticized for not letting each platform be its best. That's what being criticized; consoles aren't being criticized here. I don't see the reason for a flame war, even though I know it often happens... :sadvaultboy:

Its totaly pointless to say that the console players are getting gyped think about what u guys are saying. I think dice is going about it perfectly,

Lets step back a minute and apply this same logic to other areas of life, cars for example, I dont buy a toyota and the get on a forum and [censored] because it dosn't run like a caddilac,
People have payed alot more for their pcs than I have payed for my xbox. Of course it should look better.

The problem is we are ingrained to belive otherwise

I don't get it. So what if the pc version is better looking? Skyrim and Bf3 will look beautiful on the ps3 and Xbox 360. It's just that the pc version looks better.
If you should give the graphics a score depending on the platform then the pc will get 10 and a console would get an 8 or a 9.

an 8 or a 9 is still good right?

"why would anyone expect that console would look the same as PC? if that was the case we would have failed with the PC version"

Ouch, that hurt. Somehow feels like it was aimed at Bethesda with their "same look on all platforms" philosophy. :sadvaultboy:

sorry its just feels like one of thoughs threads. I mean the link is about people complaining about pc vs consle. We all pretty much know pc is better because of modding and can improve all the time. Bringing up a topic about that being unfair, kinda seems.... you know.

Probably because many console players take it personally and get very defensive of their platforms.

Terrible marketing by DICE. If 360 and PS3 players wanted to feel like they were getting an inferior product then they would buy a Wii.

But PC will always have superior graphics than consoles (unless you have a bad pc, but then youd have to spend loads of money in making it a high end pc)

Ha, think I finally found something sig worthy. :hubbahubba:

My PC (Specs in Sig) cost me around $600. I won't have to upgrade for a couple years. If you buy a console for lets say $300 you will still need to buy a PC too so the cost tends to even it self out. I don't know where this stereotype of "PC Gaming is so expensive" comes from, sure maybe if you're keeping on the bleeding edge of things but very few people actually do that.

I don't get why people get so upset about this. It's pretty simple really. You try having a "PC" that's over 5 years old without any hardware updates, is stuck to an incredibly restrictive "OS" that only lets you do certain things, and has tons of added fees. Really the only point relevant is that the system is 5 years old (the rest is just complaining about consoles), 5 years in tech terms is huge. It doesn't surprise me at all that this is happening, especially since this is the period of phasing between the current and next generation of consoles. The hardware is being pushed to its peak, and its about optimization. The fact is the PC can be optimized better and handle more because it is more powerful.

If this is complaining about graphics, this is a nonissue, because most PC games have superior graphics to their console counterparts. However, if this is about features, like only 24 player multiplayer on consoles compared to the 64 on PC, then this is the fault of the console for having old hardware. Battlefield 2 had large maps, jets, and 64 player maps. If they want to make Battlefield 3 with the same standards, they have to go for the PC, because doing otherwise would just be Bad Company 3 (an okay mash up of console sensibilities with PC inspired execution).

Don't hate the developer, hate the console. Or don't use a console, because PC is basically superior (from a hardware standpoint).


People give many different prices for their computers, and I think this puts people off to the thought. You can buy a decent multimedia gaming PC for less than a grand USD easily, that will be future proof for most, or all, of the console lifespan (with the only likely upgrade being a video card, for $100-200 and thats it). Enthusiasts, or people with too much money and not enough brains, will give out ridiculous numbers well over a grand and this might make console gamers think that all PC users are rich, elitist, and willing to pay the absurd premium to play on PC. Pc gaming is much cheaper than most think, and when you factor in the amount of money you save on things like XBL, DLC, and other "premium" services on the consoles, as well as the utility increase from having a well kept PC it seems almost no contest. I've spent way less on my PC in the last 5 years compared to my Xbox (2 rather, since the first RRoD <_< ).

I agree and disagree. They shouldn't limit the pc version with console potential. A 5 year old console shouldn't be a port for the pc version. On the other hand, the xbox can take much better graphics than what is being presented anyways. It's a big epic world. There's no way they could make it look state of the art. Why do you think mmos look inferior? (Except for ff14, but that game is a nightmare) For what it is, it looks fine.

Honestly I'm tired of the "Make it the same on all platforms". :dry:
IMO everyone should always make the PC version how the PC version should be and make the console how the console should be that way everyone is happy.

Why is it bad? Develop on the most powerful configuration and then optimize it to work on the lower spec consoles.

The only way this solution "fails" is that a PC game looks better than the console version, which is apparently unacceptable to console gamers.