can u count? : V

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:07 pm

im pretty tired of the opaque descriptions for things.

disarming bash: theres a 'chance' to disarm opponents with a bash.

whats a 'chance', have they taken simplifying this game to the point of saying we cant count?

aside from the fact that perks dont do what the description says they do (% on block etc.) things need to be clearer. this is supposed to be an rpg (sorta) give me some statistics. taking a perk that says 'theres a chance' is kief...

rant over i guess...

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:32 pm

I tend to agree. Some of the descriptions are way too vague. There's a chance, great. If you want me to take it, then tell me how much of a chance. Otherwise, for all I know, I might be wasting a perk.

They're also very inconsistent about it. Some are vague, using words like "chance," while others are very clear, giving actual percentages.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:53 am

Like with Konahrik. There's a "chance" that a Dragon Priest will be summoned. Sigh.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:04 pm

But what fun is life without a little mystery?

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:33 am

if i want 'mystery' ill play yahtzee this is a supposed rpg, i want facts...

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:41 am

I agree with you completely.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:29 pm

Like with Konahrik. There's a "chance" that a Dragon Priest will be summoned. Sigh.

Any idea what the chances on that thing is, I don't think I have ever had it activate any special effects

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:28 pm

I don't see the big deal , it's still helps.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:54 am

IMO, and I know many disagree, video games are TOO stats driven... So it doesn't bather me

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:17 pm

Yeah I try to avoid those perks if possible... I wonder if the % chance varies between enemy based on level and item attempting to be disarmed.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:48 am

i wish someone with the pc edit tool would read up on this kinda stuff and post in the wiki...even there its all "i dont know" about it.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:51 pm

I don't see the big deal , it's still helps.

Yeah, but with only 80 perks (or maybe it was 81) you can't even choose 1/3 of the perks available. So, if someone is going to spend a perk, they probably want as much information on it as possible.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:42 pm

Yeah, but with only 80 perks (or maybe it was 81) you can't even choose 1/3 of the perks available. So, if someone is going to spend a perk, they probably want as much information on it as possible.

Hmmm can't argue with that

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:10 am

it is too spreedsheety to use percents, todd said so

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:53 am

I can count to potato!

In all seriousness though you make a very valid point, the perks could definitely be more clear in the 'has a chance' department. I believe certain perks are also wrongly displayed like the ones that have a 15% chance actually have 16%.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:57 pm

it is too spreedsheety to use percents, todd said so

So, putting down something like 10% makes it too spreadsheety? I guess that makes sense.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:40 am

So, putting down something like 10% makes it too spreadsheety? I guess that makes sense.

tell todd not me, he is the one who is scared to show any stats what-so-ever

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:11 pm

if i want 'mystery' ill play yahtzee this is a supposed rpg, i want facts...

Facts in a RPG should be things your character knows
Since the PC isn't omniscient some vagueness in the description of their abilities seems perfectly acceptable to me

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Facts in a RPG should be things your character knows

Exactly, RPGs are based on numbers.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:10 pm

Exactly, RPGs are based on numbers.

But in a PnP game only the referee will know all the numbers. In the same way in a CRPG there are numbers the computer will be taking account of that the player is not aware of.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:00 am

it is too spreedsheety to use percents, todd said so

Todd has Spoken!

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:20 am

Todd has Spoken!

Todd said, "Let Skyrim be the land of bugs! No one shall travel for more than 10 minutes without encountering a bug!" Thus Todd's will was done, and Skyrim became the land of bugs.

» Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:46 am

Todd said, "Let Skyrim be the land of bugs! No one shall travel for more than 10 minutes without encountering a bug!" Thus Todd's will was done, and Skyrim became the land of bugs.

all hail todd, bringer of bugs :bowdown: