Can I just cut and paste a music mod from FO 3 ?

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:31 am

I have a music mod from FO 3 that included almost all the music from FO1 , FO 2 and Tactics...

Can I just replace the default music with that ? Or is there something more to it? ( The sound files are in the correct places, Dungeons, Exploring, Battle etc.)

It's the same engine so I should be able to just drop it in there..I'll just rename default music folder.
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Daramis McGee
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:43 am

Yes, but New Vegas already includes music from Fallout and Fallout 2 (Data/Music/Fallout1and2/)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:23 pm

I have a music mod from FO 3 that included almost all the music from FO1 , FO 2 and Tactics...

Can I just replace the default music with that ? Or is there something more to it? ( The sound files are in the correct places, Dungeons, Exploring, Battle etc.)

It's the same engine so I should be able to just drop it in there..I'll just rename default music folder.


No, if it was going to be a released mod. Bethesda has asked people to not pull resources from other games and put them into its games (such as Fallout 3, New Vegas, and so on).

(but ToJKa says that New Vegas already includes music from Fallout and Fallout 2 (Data/Music/Fallout1and2/ so you should just go there and consider it done)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:11 pm

No, if it was going to be a released mod.


Right. I meant "yes, it will work", but it is illegal to release assets from other games, even if they are Bethesda's games, as part of a mod. But i understood this is about making a Fallout 3 mod work with New Vegas? Little problem with that as the games are nearly identical on technical level.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:25 pm

Uh, as far as I know, you can't just add new music to the game. It uses a different system by playing certain music tracks on certain areas, so it won't just select from a common pool like in F3.

You can replace the original music tracks I think.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:24 pm

I own 2 copies of every Fallout game ever made. ( except the console version )

I should be able to mix and match as much as I darn well please...

I don't want to replace the music, music per se. I'm fine with the score for the game.

The mod simply inserts extra music into the game....all Fallout. ( Dungeons, exploring, battle etc ) The soundtrack stays the same...it just has more to play, not less.

And yes I know the game already uses music from previous Fallouts...Vault 22 had me missing the original music / ambient sound from the first games. I think Vault 22 comes from Tactics. Tactics has some of the best.
I'm just going to try it and see.

The mod no longer exists at Nexus but a link at NMA might still exist. I couldn't have finished FO 3 with vanilla music...ughh. That music mod saved that game for me.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:46 pm

Yes, but New Vegas already includes music from Fallout and Fallout 2 (Data/Music/Fallout1and2/)


TY

Yes, I know the game has music / ambiance from FO / FO 2....just not enough.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:11 am

You CAN mix and match the music to your heart's content ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER.

You CANNOT make a Fallout: New Vegas mod with Fallout 3 music files and upload that to Nexus and/or do anything with it OUTSIDE of your computer. That includes file sharing sites and virtual hard disk/data storage services, you are liable for Anything that gets uploaded from your computer to anywhere.

However as long as what you change is on your personal computer, that you own both games and that it Stays on your own computer, then its perfectly legal to mix and match content that you have purchased a license to use.

However, I have observed that such activities are not generally supported by this community, and even posting screenshots of combined assets can get you in trouble. In your case its just sound files, and no one is going to hear what your playing, but I felt compelled to say that.

Luck,

Miax
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:37 pm

I own 2 copies of every Fallout game ever made. ( except the console version )

I should be able to mix and match as much as I darn well please...

I don't want to replace the music, music per se. I'm fine with the score for the game.

The mod simply inserts extra music into the game....all Fallout. ( Dungeons, exploring, battle etc ) The soundtrack stays the same...it just has more to play, not less.

And yes I know the game already uses music from previous Fallouts...Vault 22 had me missing the original music / ambient sound from the first games. I think Vault 22 comes from Tactics. Tactics has some of the best.
I'm just going to try it and see.

The mod no longer exists at Nexus but a link at NMA might still exist. I couldn't have finished FO 3 with vanilla music...ughh. That music mod saved that game for me.


Put yourself in the shoes of Bethesda. They spend a good deal of money creating and licencing music. A lot more than what you spent to buy the game, or two of the game for that matter.

However like Miax said:
as long as what you change is on your personal computer, that you own both games and that it Stays on your own computer, then its perfectly legal to mix and match content that you have purchased a license to use.

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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:43 pm

so the way i understand it to add new ambiant music (NOT the radio on the pipboy) you have to make a esp file that tells nv where the music is at and to play at what scenario right or no?
if this the case then couldnt a esp file be pre-set up where you just rename the tracks you want to for example custom battle track 1 or custom explore track 2 but the esp has to be preset to have a certain number of tracks for each game scenario ( battle, dungeon, towns, bases etc). basically a esp that allows for example X number of custom tracks for each game scenario to be played with the ones already in game.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 10:28 am

You CAN mix and match the music to your heart's content ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER.

You CANNOT make a Fallout: New Vegas mod with Fallout 3 music files and upload that to Nexus and/or do anything with it OUTSIDE of your computer. That includes file sharing sites and virtual hard disk/data storage services, you are liable for Anything that gets uploaded from your computer to anywhere.

However as long as what you change is on your personal computer, that you own both games and that it Stays on your own computer, then its perfectly legal to mix and match content that you have purchased a license to use.

However, I have observed that such activities are not generally supported by this community, and even posting screenshots of combined assets can get you in trouble. In your case its just sound files, and no one is going to hear what your playing, but I felt compelled to say that.

Luck,

Miax


he wasnt necessarly saying he would make a music mod with copy writed tracks and release. also does any one know if there is a tuturial on adding more tracks to NV WITHOUT replacing the old ones?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:30 pm

I own 2 copies of every Fallout game ever made. ( except the console version )

I should be able to mix and match as much as I darn well please...

No, you can't. Buying a disc does not give you the right to do what you want with the content. You really only pay like 50 cents for the disc, and the rest goes for a single use license to PLAY the game.

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Now, the chance of anyone coming after you for transferring music files are slim to none, but the assumption that you have the right to do so is pure ignorance.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:09 am

No, you can't. Buying a disc does not give you the right to do what you want with the content. You really only pay like 50 cents for the disc, and the rest goes for a single use license to PLAY the game.

Now, the chance of anyone coming after you for transferring music files are slim to none, but the assumption that you have the right to do so is pure ignorance.

Actually I think, "transferring music files" inside your own computer (for example, for backup purposes) has always been acceptable in the United States. I can recall not One instance of people getting arrested for it.

I think most authorities and the Law define "transferring music files" as moving them off your computer, in most cases via file sharing services like BitTorrent. That and having Illegal content on your computer (either stuff you didn't purchase, or stuff like child pormography) - those land you in Jail very fast. Backup-up my own purchased movies? Never.

So yeah we are free to move files around on our own computer to our hearts content - I can make backups of my movies and DVDs (as long as I always have the originals and/or receipts of purchase). iTunes whines at me all the time to do exactly that, and offers me the ability to backup the files to CD _or_ any location on my computer (and lets my browse to that location as I choose).

What I do think is "New" and much more in the gray area are these Offsite drive services like DropBox which advertise as being private disk storage space. That I would be worried about in moving Any content to.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:02 am

Backing up is different from doing what you want with files as mentioned in this thread. (Use in NV)

Simply having the software installed on your computer does not give the right to USE it however you want. You are simply granted permission to use it in a specific way.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:09 pm

Backing up is different from doing what you want with files as mentioned in this thread. (Use in NV)

Simply having the software installed on your computer does not give the right to USE it however you want. You are simply granted permission to use it in a specific way.

Hmmmm I don't think its a problem in the United States, again I have never heard of this as a legal issue for anyone.

And backups were just an example of the fact that I can put the content anywhere I want On my computer to play it. Its no different than installing Fallout 3 in another directory than the default, or using iTunes to play the songs - by this logic it would be illegal to play the music in my own computer with an audio player, but thousands of people do. Heck I have always played my favorite video game's music with an audio player on my computer, I mod to it All the time. So I guess I'm a hardened criminal in this case. :)

I think the critical distinction is "On your own computer". When that fails to be the case and you move content "Off your own computer" in _any_ way, it becomes illegal and you could get in big trouble for it.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:48 pm

Hmmmm I don't think its a problem in the United States, again I have never heard of this as a legal issue for anyone.

And backups were just an example of the fact that I can put the content anywhere I want On my computer to play it. Its no different than installing Fallout 3 in another directory than the default, or using iTunes to play the songs - by this logic it would be illegal to play the music in my own computer with an audio player, but thousands of people do. Heck I have always played my favorite video game's music with an audio player on my computer, I mod to it All the time. So I guess I'm a hardened criminal in this case. :)

I think the critical distinction is "On your own computer". When that fails to be the case and you move content "Off your own computer" in _any_ way, it becomes illegal and you could get in big trouble for it.


AGREE! the illegal part is MOSTLY when content is redistributed.
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