Cant use CCC's AA and AF?

Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:06 pm

I heard that using AA and AF through CCC is better than from the launcher but if i try to use override application settings nothing happens?
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 10:55 am

Yes - I have this too, and posted about it http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1361859-antialiasing-settings-something-not-right/

This has always been the case for me, throughout various Skyrim and CCC updates.

Anyone else?
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 11:13 am

happened for me as well.
though i havent tried it lately anymore...
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 11:41 am

seems to work for me
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:17 am

AF can be forced through the CCC and is much better then the in-game AF supplied (gets rid of the very noticeable leading edge of the filtering).

AA has never been able to be forced using the CCC (you can "enhance" or supersample), but you cannot force AA values with the CCC.

The only way you can force AA is if you disable the Catalyst AI for the game. And the only way I have found is to edit the xml profile you create using the RadeonPro tweaking.

I did a post on this on Steam about it wayy back (the relevant editing bit is in the first post).
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2270014

This was back in the 8.93 driver days, and then when forcing the AA it degraded the FPS with no benefit. The in-game AA for Skyrim works pretty good with ATI.
Of course, we can't do the cool translucency AA enhancement you can do with the Nvidia cards. As far as I know, toggling the Adaptive AA in the CCC still causes problems.

Bats
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:47 am

I have to say I disliked the forced AF from Catalyst. IMHO opinion it looked worse than that of the in-game AF. Perhaps it is a matter of taste.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 1:53 pm

That's very interesting information - thanks for that, Bats.

So if the CCC AA isn't enabled and set to use the application settings, why do the CCC AA options (MSAA, AMSAA or SSAA) still affect the game?

If CCC is set to use Skyrim AA settings, and I have the Skyrim AA set at 8x, I get 60fps if I have CCC MSAA selected, and 25fps if I have CCC SSAA selected.

Can anyone else confirm this?
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 2:27 pm

yeah that fix you did way back there Bat, i found that earlier bny googling actually :P but like that other guy it doesnt work for me either. that line in the radeonpro profile simply doesnt exist or adding it doesnt work either.
I think im gonna have to live with the ingame AA and AF sadly :(
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:35 pm

Huh, I still have that line in my RadeonPro xml files for any profile I do for a game. Wonder why it isn't showing up in yours?

I just checked my profile for Mass Effect I have in Radeon Pro and the Catalyst AI entry is still there. The individual game profiles are located under your user name, in the AppData/Roamin/RadeonPro/Profiles directory. I don't have anything special toggled in RadeonPro to access additonal settings.

No way to ask about it either since it is no longer updated.

However, since that test was run on the 8.93 drivers, the newer 8.95 or 8.96 may let you force the AA using the Override Application setting now.

I also don't have any of the Catalyst Application Profiles (CAPS) installed either.

Maybe with the new(er) drivers you can override the AA in more games. Used to be a real pain if the game used deferred rendering. I'll have to try Need for Speed Hot Pursuit and see if I can override it there (before I had to use a 10.10e custom driver profile).

Also, I was running a 6950 (unlocked to 6970) at the time, and am now running a 7950. I'm pretty sure the AF filtering is different in the high end 6000 series and was again revamped in the high end 7900 series. It could very well be the architecture differences that show the change when I force the AF.

I haven't played Skryim in a month (decided to actually finish Mass Effect 2 and am know doing ME3... gahk, talk about graphic tweaking to get a nice picture). Someday I'm going to get back to it and finish the main quest :)

Bats
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 4:23 pm

That's very interesting information - thanks for that, Bats. So if the CCC AA isn't enabled and set to use the application settings, why do the CCC AA options (MSAA, AMSAA or SSAA) still affect the game? If CCC is set to use Skyrim AA settings, and I have the Skyrim AA set at 8x, I get 60fps if I have CCC MSAA selected, and 25fps if I have CCC SSAA selected. Can anyone else confirm this?

If the game supports AA, then almost always you can use CCC to change the AA type the game used. In your case, Skyrim is calling for AA and you used the CCC to apply supersampling AA.

If a game doesn't have any settings for AA (like Borderlands) then you have to use the CCC to force AA to be applied. This doesn't always work, whether it is because of the engine or because AMD specifically has a setting in the drivers to ignore forcing AA for that game.

What I did was turn off the AA in Skyrim so there was no call for AA and then tried forcing it the CCC. It would never work until I cleared that setting in the custom Radeon Pro profile I set up for Skyrim.

Of course, since the only two tweak programs we have for AMD drivers are no longer actively supported any tweaking with newer drivers and newer hardware may be a real hit and miss :(

Bats
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:38 am

Which is why my 6970 is going back in the box as a back up card soon as I can afford a 680. Card is a powerhouse but the drivers just aren't there.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 2:29 pm

If the game supports AA, then almost always you can use CCC to change the AA type the game used. In your case, Skyrim is calling for AA and you used the CCC to apply supersampling AA.

If a game doesn't have any settings for AA (like Borderlands) then you have to use the CCC to force AA to be applied. This doesn't always work, whether it is because of the engine or because AMD specifically has a setting in the drivers to ignore forcing AA for that game.

What I did was turn off the AA in Skyrim so there was no call for AA and then tried forcing it the CCC. It would never work until I cleared that setting in the custom Radeon Pro profile I set up for Skyrim.

Of course, since the only two tweak programs we have for AMD drivers are no longer actively supported any tweaking with newer drivers and newer hardware may be a real hit and miss :(

Bats

I do believe thats the case but im running the game in windowed mode with that SBW executer and everything is smooth and nice. I think im just gonna play the game and not think of it anymore. It is the only game that has so many bugs and errors. I'm just happy i can finally play it without any fuzz.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 2:34 pm

Which is why my 6970 is going back in the box as a back up card soon as I can afford a 680. Card is a powerhouse but the drivers just aren't there.

tempting...like $500? im just rocking a 6870...
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