I had it all planned out me and Boone a pair of silenced sniper rifles killing baddies at our leisure . Imagine my surprise that when I got the two Chinese armor stealth suits they only added 5 % to my stealth , Oh but it get worse ! then I try to use then and guess what ! If you get caught while wearing Chinese stealth Armor the person catching you takes your armor ! WTF . I was so disappointed I almost quit the game for good . I can take the no music but bad music and the no poker in a RPG with 10 casinos even the kiddie game of go fish , but breaking the Chinese stealth armor was just mean do you hate your fans ? This sux who ever decided this should be fired or at least made to lick used toilets . I waited a year for this game even bought the collectors edition guide I feel you owe me this one . Fix the Chinese stealth armor

It's broken because it's old and worn out. It's taken because it is stolen property.

Get some Recon Armor and some Stealth Boys for when you need them.

is this a joke

You're right, it was broken in Fallout 3.

It was broken in F3 as you were unable to be seen ever, which was fun but game breaking.

So in FNV it only adds skill to your stealth, also it was taken off you as you'd been stealing from the same area/owners where you stole the suits from.

I wish it where a joke sadly this is for real

In Fallout 3 it was incredibly overpowered and broken.

In New Vegas, it at least sounds balanced.

It was not broken in fallout 3 it worked fine . I pants ed ( placed a live grenade) 100's of baddies in fallout 3 even mutant overlords

You just inadvertently explained why most people consider Fallout 3's version to be broken.

Modern gaming, eh.

If some of you don't want to use it that's fine . I don't care if they even give you a achievement goal for not using it or breaking it only on hardcoe mode but breaking it for everyone sux . It was one of the most enjoyable things about fallout 3

Is it taken from you if you're caught stealing/pickpocketing from the NCR only? Or is it taken away if you're caught stealing, regardless of what faction the theft victim belongs to?

Not for me........because I sold the garbage immediately.

I thought it was overpowered in FO3, although it was fun for the first few hours.

In FNV it maybe loses too much-- it's the same bump to your sneak skills as Recon, but looks so rubbery and silly it's embarrassing to walk around in, while Recon armor looks like something a desert soldier might actually wear. I think a good compromise might be a bigger bump, like +20 or +25 Sneak. Or it could be lighter weight, or have better damage resistance, or unarmed +5 boost or something.

Or the ability to wear a duster or something over it so it didn't look like you were wearing a crazy person's wetsuit.

regardless who catches you .


I planned most of my game strategy around the stealth armor every since I first discovered it was going to be in NV . I wish they had told us it was going to be broken . I also wish they had told us there was no poker in nv . Before that I had rated Nv at 7.5 after I found out the stealth armor was broken I give it a 6 .

I'm assuming you are on a console.

If so, then I imagine you'll have to accept that they altered it for balance reasons and they are unlikely to change it.

0/10

I would say it was broken in FO3 but it was for DLC and not in the main game so wouldn't say so.

A guess most people really just like having over powered armor and gear... you always have Call of Duty for that you know.
Just sayin'.

I don't know what you're complaining about, but they don't steal the armor I am wearing, only if I get caught stealing something else, then it goes bye bye, but then I just kill them so it can be mine again.

It actually looks sixier sense it doesn't disappear, it goes great with the Ranger Helmet.
I, for one, am a happy customer with my Chinese stealth suit. Why? It isn't over powered, it isn't game breaking, and I look all the more good murdering people with it on.

Though, the stats could use a boost. Maybe, 15 DT? Or 14. And +10/12 Sneak.

The NV version of the CSA is still cool in terms of looks.

However, I would have maybe changed it to have a +10 to the stealth skill to differentiate it from the +5 for the plain old recon armor, since the stealth field has been nerfed out of existence.

Then I would have maybe added a feature that allowed you use it the old way and "recharge" it using stealthboys or some other not so easy to get item. Lily has a great companion perk to go along with stealthboys, but sometimes I just want to go solo or use another companion...

Since there are only 2 CSA's in the vanilla game, the stolen tags are a real pain. I would have left them off for sure...

It would've been a pretty great random encounter to find a cave near Hoover dam, to enter it, and while going through it, killing off lake lurks and what not, at the end of the tunnel you see that there is a huge hole that shows the sky, and at the bottom, you see a dead chinese paratrooper with the armor laying next to him, and a note saying that his landing calculations were way off.

So anything that is too good, the makers should break for everyone ? What about the pulse gun it can kill any robot , turret , or power armored geek in one hit should they break it ? The Gatling lazer makes it pretty easy should they break that for everyone ? Heck any weapon or armor makes it easier so perhaps we should all stroll the waste naked and fight deathclaws with our fist cause that would be realistic . My point is some of Us liked the overpowering stealth armor and it would have been just as easy to allow the player to choose if they wanted to use it or not . But the choice has been made for us so now we can either deal with it or sell our copy and find a new game .

Not everything is as powerful as the Chinese Stealth Armor was. The armor made you permanently invisible as long as you were crouching which was massively in favor of the player because of sneak attack bonuses. The pulse gun you spoke of only works on certain enemies. Gattling Lasers are useless against enemies with high DT. Armor doesn't do anything when fighting Deathclaws.

Chinese Stealth Armor was too powerful. Granted, it should probably be better than Recon Armor, but it did merit being taken down a bit.

That's pretty much correct.

Game designers have to make design decisions. If you are on console then you have to take what they give you, convince them to change it again, or give up the game.

PC, of course, has another option.

Make an argument to the designers why the armor should be restored to the FO3 version. See if they agree.

No it isn't "broken"...it is working as intended. I agree..stealth armor was the most fun object they ever added to a game. Removing the "Stealth Field" from it was simply a way to ensure that they could drop names without actually giving you the item. Also it doesn't add 5% to sneak only a total of 5 points. 5% would be very very small unless you already had 100 and then what would the point be.

Poker isn't a casino game BTW. Yes it is played in casinos but they don't actually have poker dealers at tables waiting for you. When I was growing up my parents worked at Caesar's (not KAI-sar's) Tahoe and I asked the same question. I was told that a dealer could be hired (but why would you want to) for a private game in the "poker room" from the casino but they didn't have them normally waiting around for it. Poker is replaced by Caravan as a player dealt game in NV. Lastly...the only reason that people even care about Poker these days is because of the terrible fad of watching "Texas Hold 'em" tournaments. Most people don't even know that poker can be won by out bidding your opponent and there is no "all in". As in...if you can't meet the bet you lose. Tournament rules don't allow that. Tournament (what used to be called 'No-Limit" or "No-Raise-Limit") style poker games svck.

All of the COD and HALO players can whine about FO3 being "un-balanced" all they want...it was fun. The removal of the "fun cheats" style items is one of FO:NV's biggest flaws...that and an enforced ending. When it gets right down to it...if people didn't want to use the overpowered items then they didn't have to. Now we all are forced to play without them.