Big Brother is always watching.

Surprise!

Well I'm sure 'they' can already access anything I'm up to anyway, and I can't say that's a bad thing because we don't need any more WikiLeaks crap or anything like that.

Besides, I always opt in to my information being shared. As far as I'm aware my Facebook is still 100% public, and it just doesn't bother me. I'm not really a private person or anything, if I were going to do something I didn't want someone to know about I just wouldn't do it online in the first place.

Well, it just passed trough the House.

Not legally and not easily. This will make it so everything you do must be logged for years so that in the event you do something down the road that they don't like or at all think is suspicious they have years of logs of your information to go through and dig up every last bit of dirt. This is the exact opposite of innocent until proven guilty and makes a laughingstock of the legal system.

http://www.attackvector.org/invasion-of-privacy/

The only reason the SOPA bill failed is because a lot of corporations fought it. If a majority of the corporations support this bill, then it doesn't really matter what the public thinks.

Unfortunately, the telcoms are supporting this because they do exactly this anyway, and have been for many years now.

Well, if this does get passed, it'll be yet another reason for me to buy AirVPN.

It won't pass, once again it infringes on our rights. If it does pass I will move to a different country out of shame for what the American Govt. has morphed into. This is not Democracy.

Which is very sad.

^Declaration of Independence ^

It is still our right & duty. I think the founding fathers would be turning in their graves at the current state of our govt.

I am pretty sure it states somewhere in the Declaration of Independence that it is the people that control the govt. not the govt. that controls the people.

Ugh. Either we needed another major site blackout, or the social media networks are suppressing it from any sort of trending list.

The Declaration of Independence holds no political weight. You need to quote the Constitution for that.

But don't. Let's keep politics out of it and discuss this bill specifically.

The snooping bill they tried here failed.
Like being allowed to read everyones emails, web history, text messages, phone calls etc was ever going to be allowed.
It was meant to home in on key words, I'd be shouting bomb/attack/death/martyrdom/death to all down the phone to my friend, then when the police kick my door in I'd merely tell them I was playing Call of Duty and they owe me money for breaking my door and any other damages.

Sick of all the governments appeasing conservative Christians... Back here in South Australia the government is basically abolishing MA15+ in favor of RA18+...

Was talking to a Kiwi the other day. Apparently the NZ pork board can, technically, place surveillance equipment in one's home with basically no process. They've also got a filter with a secret blacklist, are getting China to build them internet infrastructure, and generally making questionable choices.

Would also be an extremely juicy target for malicious types. Governments do have very high security when they want it (I won't insult them unduly on that point), but a database holding years of personal information about every internet user in the USA? That would be one of the biggest targets in the world.

I can imagine other nations trying to get into it, too. Not in any way that could be traced back to them, obviously, but I wouldn't be surprised if a little money disappears from budgets ere and there...

Perhaps I'm just getting a bit paranoid. On the other hand, this hat is shiny!

I don't really care anymore..

Funny I haven't heard about this until just the other day, it is being kept relatively quiet.

According to Wikipedia it passed yesterday.... before that Obama threatened to Vito it.

It passed in the House, the Senate is going to vote on it today, and the prez said the same thing in regards to the NDAA.


The future looks grim.

One of the problems I see is that people don't care about their privacy.

They "don't do anything wrong" and "have nothing to hide", so they don't care who sees what they do or say on the internet or anywhere else. The problem with this is that they put the kind of information out there that feeds cyber criminals. Then governments can use crime as a reason to gather information on their citizenry and monitor content.

We should all be conscious of not putting anything out there that can be used by criminals. The argument that "I've got nothing to hide" is also very flawed. We have been conditioned to be suspicious about those who believe privacy is a good thing.

That actually wouldn't be such a bad thing for advlt gamers. Would mean that the people classifying games could finally allow games that are a little too harsh to justify a MA15+ rating (Fallout 3's morphine thing is one example). Unless there's something more to it...

*Someone introduces legislation to allow watching people while they sleep are in bed*

"Why should I care? It's not like I do anything wrong while I sleep; I've got nothing to hide."
"But the wording would allow it to be extended to watching you *cough* relate to your partner, or listen in on phone calls made while in contact with your bed, or, or, or... And the fact that they would not only be able to do this, but would be able to do it on a whim, is at least as bad in itself."
"You must be a terrorist?"

In Victoria the government phones are now monitored so now when i talk to the local government office i keep putting in words like, weapons of mass destruction, plastic explosive, fertiliser, bomb, just to give the guys on the other end something to do so they can waste there time, investigating a non event. What i wanted to do was have the phone off the hook and just play hours of music over the phone so they would have this long recording of just music.

Was it ever a Democracy? Back in the 50's they did exactly this looking for those commie bastards. Same game different name.

It's stupid crap like this the Government does that makes me hate being an American. Our Government is attempting to be omnipotent godmen.

and that whole quote from the Declaration earlier, yea have fun doing that and being labeled a terrorist. America is stupid like that.

Where's anonymous when you need em... maybe the whole anon thing was a joke/fake/coverup? Or maybe tis issomethin bigger than their capabilities?